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Time to turn the rhetoric down, Tony

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SM, if you had a dime every time a labor supporter said that "His nasty attitude and already dirty scare mongering will be Julies best friend",

...then you would be American.

And probably broke, as they would probably be more likely to say "Julia".
Posted by Bugsy, Thursday, 14 July 2011 10:46:35 PM
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Shadow Minister
For somebody for uses a name like that you sure are naive.
They are all liars full of themselves with few morals. Sell out to the highest donation despite who it hurts. Look at live exports and our intensive farms.

I am sickened by all the leaders accept Bob Brown in that regards. What I do see however is the worst possible choice for the opposition. Anyway, wont matter what you or I say. Time will tell.
My only interest is I personally prefer not to have to look at him.

If ever he was PM hed be on TV more and he makes my skin crawl.
I still can not believe he raised his daughters private sexual preferences as a public topic. I mean how disrespectful is that. Have you ever know anybody to be that low. Most protect their family and kids. Even this morning he dragged those girls up st 3am to take them to a fish market with a lot of blokes. His buddy was left seen on TV rushing in to interrupt a interview screaming they shave young girls public hairs in other countries. Mate they are just plain sick that lot. Sick in the head dirty old men committed to discussing woman sex young girls.
Not to mention if he were PM abortions would go back to back yard butchers & paying coppers. No man has any right to yell a woman what to do with her body- if shes wants a kid or not.
Hes truly Off in my opinion- horrible man
Posted by Kerryanne, Thursday, 14 July 2011 11:25:55 PM
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I'm with you on this one Kerryanne!
I don't care about what else the Liberal Party have to offer, I just couldn't handle having that dreadful, um, excuse for a, ah,
man as the PM! He is an embarrassment. Running around in hardhats and bright vests, with never a drop of sweat in sight.
Bring back Malcolm Turnbull.

Julia won the last election, and Abbott will never get over that.
He will keep on giving us his, ah, bumbling ramblings about the new tax, and how all hell will break loose because of it.

The Liberal tax GST was far worse as far as I can see.

Julia spoke the truth at the time she said they wouldn't bring in the carbon tax, but then was brave enough to admit she was wrong, and brings it in anyway, despite it being so unpopular.

She has gained my vote because of that stance, against all the odds.
Posted by suzeonline, Friday, 15 July 2011 12:13:57 AM
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suzeonline

Yes shes won me over as a brave and down to earth person. Shes got more guts than all those men & I really didnt like her.
Respect is earned and thats something Tony doesn't get. I think the public see clearly shes had a tough job.Bob chose well to pick her as the better person. Shes got a major problem however with staff.

*The Liberal tax GST was far worse as far as I can see.* Yes MUCH

*She has gained my vote because of that stance, against all the odds.*

Me too but i AM upset live exports was resumed.

That DREADFUL Abbott screaming senem anyway. I utterly detest the person. Cant even call him a man-- not a mans bootlace.

Julies more of a man than he will ever be.
Posted by Kerryanne, Friday, 15 July 2011 1:12:08 AM
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Kerryanne,
your desperation to discredit a decent & rather capable Australian is nothing short of indecent. By all means if you're experiencing a personality clash don't vote for him but don't you think you have a responsibility to all Australians to do everything possible to get this country back on track. This cannot happen under the present party & leadership. Surely you can't be that silly & not see that ? So, if you have an ounce of decency in you do your bit for a good Australia.
Posted by individual, Friday, 15 July 2011 5:01:34 AM
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rstuart:"When he does that he is not directly attacking the issues. He is directly attacking the people who support the issues. From where I sit it seems his supporters have taken his cues and now follow his lead - with his tacit encouragement."

this is now standard fare in all sorts of area of public discourse. One has only to look at any discussion of Family Law or anything at all to do with gender matters.

There is little effort to make policy based on genuine research in these areas, rather a preference for working out which side has more political clout. Thus, emotive phrasing and appeals to popularity have undermined any effort at proper evidence-based decision-making. It's made even worse when there is deliberate fudging of results.

It seems to me that Abbott is simply following the standard political rulebook as it is in 2011. It's terribly amusing to watch some of those who believe the end justifies the means (as long as it's in their preferred cause, of course) pretending to faux outrage.
Posted by Antiseptic, Friday, 15 July 2011 6:03:35 AM
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