SM, she doesn't have to be all that credible, she just has to be more credible than Abbott.

Easy peasey.

Could somebody please tell SM that this thread is about Abbott's debasement of political discourse, not Gillard's perceived failings. He appears to be having a bit of trouble reading today.

If it stops the carbon tax, then the disruption has saved Australia from a stuff up of monumental proportions.

This tax has so much compensation that it is no where near revenue neutral, and the tax payer will be forking out over and above the carbon tax.

If what stops the carbon tax? Abbott's debasement of political discourse?

Bit of a slippery slope there SM...

If it does work, then it will forever be considered a legitimate political tactic.

Thanks, you have now quite convinced me who I should really vote for next election.

No Abbott should be turning up the heat.

Like that girl said last night, Gillard is a proven liar. as blatant as you like, one who will say anything.

Having said that I would not like to see her go. She is our best chance to change from this grossly incompedent mob in power. Hope she hangs in there untill the next election, then the lot get turffed out.

If she gets replaced, the next PM might be better and it would be a shame to miss an opportunity to get rid of the lot, greens and all.

SM,

It seems you're advocating "tactics" over "substance". If Mr Abbott possessed a modicum of the latter, he'd be far more palatable.
I'm a leftie who's not particularly impressed with Labor at the moment, however, I wouldn't dream of voting for a party led by Abbott.