so much to con-sieve
what to believe

when i dared god to make me blind
by staring at the sun..he presented me with a vision
the after image of which was a circle within a circle
that my mind percieved[concieved]..as resembling a nipple
that my mind then decided was a cell and nuclious..

the end must join the beginning
thus the uniqueness of one big bang
becomes but a breathing out..and collapsing in
of many 'big bangs'

much like a breath...where the general imputus..flow
inertia..of a big bang...eventually dissipitates..into stasis
that in time gathers together[again]..where a final change of state
reverses the ionversion back with a bang...into the next expantion..

pre big bang..there was the circle..
[the size of a full stop{.}]
in time there would be the beginning[.]
and the outer limit[O]

the [.]...within..the [O]
or the nipple that god gave me
now the [O]...might be symbolic
or it might be a sign..

or it might simply be an after image
but why arnt i blind

[my theory is that i looked at gods sun..
with expanded pupil's...and physio-logicly
simply hadnt focused my eyes lens narrow enough
to burn the recepters..in the back of my eye

i love that [for me]..god
looks like an engorged blue nipple
even if i saw only the 'sun'..not the father of the son

the sun yet sustains every bit of living
the talk is heaven is filled with light
and hell in rejecting the light..creates its own 'darkness'

we each have ben gifted our life being
to chose to walk OUR OWN path..but no where
can life be recognised
but by other life

science has proven
life comes only from life
so even in the beginning..there must have been life
just as life must be....'after life'

[even if only spirit
survives the big collapse]
it returns again with a big bang
time and again...and again..and a GAIN

Dear Poirot,

An old Arab who is unaware of jet planes may claim:
"How is it possible to travel from Cairo to Amman without a camel?".

So does the ordinary human believe that it is impossible to live and function without the mind.

"Whether existence is an illusion or not, this is the way humans make sense of the material realm."

Indeed, but whence this insatiable urge to make sense?
A jet pilot may occasionally hire a camel for recreation, but s/he can also do without it.

"Precisely!....and that is what you have presented to us - merely "your concept" of God."

In fact, I have only presented you with keyboard strokes and electric impulses.

Yuyutsu,

Why would you bother to type out the words if you were not intent on passing on information to other humans? (you were "making sense" of your words and actions at the time, and driven by an insatiable urge to make yourself understood to us - to make sense)

Yes, you provided the keyboard strokes, and electric impulses carried them to us. We then decoded them utilising the signifiers you provided to form mental images (the signified) - only then did your (approximate) message/transmission reach other minds...we made "sense" of your thoughts.

"So does the ordinary human believe that it is impossible to live and function without the mind."

I'm intrigued - perhaps you can enlighten us as to how we would go about functioning as humans without our minds?
(This doesn't preclude recourse to irrational or random concepts - outside the square, so to speak).

Poirot:
<Precisely!....and that is what you [Yuyutsu] have presented to us - merely "your concept" of God>

Indeed, not even Yuyutsu's concept, but a cultural concept, a derivatve concoction.

I enjoyed your Durant and James quotes btw, Poirot. Having read most of James's "Varieties of Religious Experience" I can attest that he had a remarkably open, yet rigorous, mind on the subject.
His brother, Henry James, is also of course a splendidly psychological novelist.

Dear Poirot,

Why indeed should I bother passing on information to other humans?

Perhaps because I care, perhaps because I feel it is my duty to do so, perhaps because writing helps me clarify my own ideas to myself. Ideally, this should not be a bother but a call from God to serve others in this way and ideally, my mind should not interpose itself in my writing. I do pray to keep my mind's interpositions to the minimum.

"I'm intrigued - perhaps you can enlighten us as to how we would go about functioning as humans without our minds?"

I wrote that you could function without your mind, not that you would function as a human. However, you could still function among humans, and probably even better than you ever did as a human. All you need for this is a [human] body and a [human] brain, you don't need to waste your energies minding about it.

Yuyutsu,

"Duty and care" can only be conceived by using your mind. You have "made sense" of the concepts of duty and care.

It seems you are saying that one can utilise one's human body and brain to act among humans, but "not" as a human - how so?

Wouldn't the absence of mind (cognition) reduce one to a vacuous human-shaped entity?

You mind's "interpositions" are all encompassing. You are (for the present) ensconced within materiality - everything you've uttered is referenced from and predicated on your human cognition, condition and experience, even as you deny it.