paleif, sorry not much into the emotional arguement. I certainly don't condone the injuries that some roos suffer. The professional shooters I've had on the farm have been just that, professional. I've not come across any suffering casualties. I'm pleased that in the culling process the resource is not wasted and that someone benefits financially, even though it's not me. Apart from less crop being eaten.
Knocking the joey on the head is a humane response. I've had to do it with the odd roo we hit on the road. Don't usually keep a gun in the car to do otherwise.

Freediver, in a way we already do manage roos like our fisheries. A permit is required to take them and the roos are free to go where they wish.

Rojo.
No its ok its just that I thought it best to back off this a little the libbers hunt us down with their protests AGAINST pale
To be really honest we had meeting with head of Roo company.
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Would like somebody start a roo ranch. Tap into some of the hundreds of dollars available for regional areas especially aboriginal people.

Some of those places go for thousands of hecters. Build some accomadation for Roo Rangers and eventually a value adding plant on a few.
The ranger and his family would be charged with keeping track on the mob and hand feed to quiten them

Then we would ask Mark CEO RSPCA to support silences being used when it comes to the cull.
That endures less tress and more for the profeshional shooter as they dont flee..
They just stand there - pop pop [ its kinder.

Also pay for some fencing and double up on the Roo Ranches with vegetables etc for the overseas people who would be interested to pay the family with a partnership into exports.

Had a good meeting with John kelly but time and 'others to help set it up" is the killer.

Joyes should be shot or given to carers.

I DONT approve of smashing their heads in on the side of the truck.
yes I have seen it.
Neither do I approve of the massive trade in USA to sell them as pets by the way.
We would like it made a law that roos are ONLY shot by profeshonal shooters.
The way to do that is to pay the farmer . That way it will stop a lot of the farmers shooting to maim only so the roo does not die on his proporty - but instead hops away and dies slowly of lead poison
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If you know anybody in your area and you are far enough out it would be interesting to kick one off.

Although it would be easier to start the first few in QLD because of Mark it could be done elsewhere.

My problem is time.

Roo Ranches for Tourism

The possibilties of doubling up on the useage of Roo ranches are endless.
There is huge world wide interest in aboriginal art and paintings and kangaroos.
No reason why some training work shops could not be put into place for upholsters and there are a million other things that can be made from Roo hide.ie Shoes key rings etc.

Eventually accomadtion could be built and the Ranger could give tours which would serve to quiten the heard. Water placement is possible in many areas.
There is enormous interest in Roo from Russia. However if somebody wanted to take this on as a progect there really is enough funding in the regional kitty to start it.

Of course you would have to be invited by the people of the area and the Elders. It would be THEIR progect no ifs and buts.

It would be wonderful if anybody out there is interested to kick something off as a polite progect. Once you had one up and running I am sure others would follow.
It would be neccessary and a great advantage to work with the profeshional Roo people and shooters.

If the Roo Ranch Rangers could also make arrangments to see the other farms within the next five hundred miles then everybody could be paid.
Once the profeshional had most places covered and the farmers were happy being paid for a change we could Ban the cruel weekend so called SPORTSMEN and WOMEN who make me sick.

They do more damage and are far more cruel than the Roo profeshional shooter.
Anybody who thinks its fun to shoot an animal and leave it there just for the sake needs the old side of the truck treatment.
Personally I would lOVE to have another farm to take these so called members of the public just having a bit of fun! sport. There is not much sport in it for the an animal!

Listen to the gun lobbiests . I am away for a few days[ Think I will head for the hills myself.

Boaz, you will say absolutely anything to take a pot-shot, won't you?

>>One man owes his life to a doggy which deserves the Victoria Cross for bravery above and beyond the call of duty.
And Pericles has the nerve to suggest that the keeping of domestic pets is 'SLAVERY' ? sheesh.<<

Even for you, that is utterly pathetic.

For a start, the dog was patently not anyone's domestic pet, so that part goes straight out of the window.

But the main thing is that the dog was not actually fighting the bull in order to protect the man - take another look at the video and you will see that the dog was i) joining in a bit of fun and games with a bull, then ii) continuing the fun and games long after the guy had cut and run. Note that he went back for more after being shaken off the first time. He was actually enjoying himself.

No "bravery above and beyond the call of duty" - there was no duty involved.

But since you introduced the video (and I'm not sure of its relevance to the subject - it looks like you simply wanted to get in a cheap shot), what are your views on the actions of the guy who was saved by the "doggy"? Is bull-baiting a pastime of yours as well?

This has absolutely nothing to do with the practice of keeping animals as pets, and you know it.

Sheeesh, indeed.

Pericles

I couldnt resist just before I leg it out the door.

It is not uncommon for a dog to continue to attack the offender.

Despite the fact the man was free it would be normal for the dog to continue the attack until the bull withdrew.

Lets hope the guy went back and gave his hero a really good home and wormed him and fed him.

Perhaps a nice fire place to keep him warm in the winter and lots of daily runs in the park

I hope so anyway.

Does anybody know what happend to the bull?

I would like to think that some of the libbers gave him a nice home too.
After all the bull probably has seen the cruel rodoes and bull fighting world wide.

The poor bull.

Perhaps you could find out what happend to him

Hello freediver and Country gal.

The kangaroo can have a neonate waiting to be born when the mother animal loses her joey in pouch. and yes she can have an older joey at heal that depends on her for guidance teaching protection etc. for up to 24 months or more.
Because the joey occupies the pouch for up to 12 months before it emerges leaves the pouch temporary the female Kangaroo is only able to raise one joey at a time seldom twins.
The time the joey can spend in its mothers pouch depends on the mother animal. and on the macropod species.
The time the male offspring spends with his mother depends on the bond they have. Some males leave at the age of 18 months some stay with their mums much much longer.
The girls stay with their mums as they learn from her how to raise their own offspring(s).
Like the juvenile boys have their boys-club the females have their group and baby sit their closed relatives’ offspring. Some males are very gentle with the emerging or at heel joeys. They are more tolerant having these youngsters around then females are.
Kangaroos have a very unique, tied and complicated family structure and the mob members are keeping an eye on each other.
Kangaroos have a hierarchical structure and a pecking order. There is not enough space to get deeper into their lives.

The point is that the mob structure is being destroyed and the gene pool with it. Over the years the size of the animals has been reduced and the ones real big animals have been wiped out. Now smaller animals have to be culled to make up for the quota to export the meat overseas.

The kangaroo should not and can not compete with domesticated animals.
It takes far too long to mature.
As you perhaps can now understand the Kangaroo can not reproduce at the rate its being destroyed in some areas especially where the weekend shooter[public] are allowed. Especially where the big ones are the main target. It requuires a national approach.
Antje