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Federal Elections and Preferences

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Dear OUG (Johan),

I've never thought that you were "weird," - always interesting, unique, with a playful sense of humour.

Dear Belly,

I understand your passion for your party and what you feel is an infringement by the Greens. I watched Brown being interviewed on
Lateline and he made it quite clear that they are not in a position to dictate to anyone. They along with the Independents are part of
a team and they have to go along with the general consensus. He doesn't see the purpose of the Greens as dictating to the government.
Perhaps you're worrying needlessly?
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 12:40:55 PM
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Hi Belly,
I have been reading all of these posts with interest......at one time,in my younger days, I thought that the Politician elected for each individual seat was there to represent that electorate, mind you, I was only young when that thought came to mind. I still believe that elected Politicians SHOULD be representing their electorate, but no, life isn't like that, because these days, the major Parties indulge in more than a little arm bending to make these SHOULD BE representatives come around to their way of thinking....this does not make sense, country seats for example, require different things than those people who are City dwellers.....we in the bush, have to pay taxes to fund an express way in Perth, do we use it?, no.
City hospitals are thriving, Country hospitals are crumbling, yet we all pay the same tax. City pensioners get free bus and train travel, we in the bush don't have train travel unless we travel 400kms north a trip of 9hours, to catch a train to Perth. Thankfully the National Party's Brendon Grylls, sold himself to the State Liberal Premier, on the grounds that Huge Royalties from the Mining Industry (WA) were spend in the Regional Areas., we now have a $500 fuel card in place of free bus travel (for Pensioners ), and funds are fed into country areas, that they (the people) can enjoy many things that City people enjoy.
What re really need in Government is a benevolent Dictator who can see past the City and do what is best for ALL Australians.
Cheers Belly,
Noisy Scrub Bird :)
PS It was a Liberal Government which told WA folk to move to the country areas and help grow the regions !, we did that and now we are ignored to a degree. I know one thing for sure Belly, I might just come back to to this planet after I die, and enjoy life as a cat or a dog!
Posted by Noisy Scrub Bird, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 12:42:34 PM
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Thanks NSB Lexi as always I think the world of you but here you do me miss service.
And Morganzola,well breathless ,I see your pain, I see your defense of your party,you will not answer my questions.
But you are WELL AWARE MY INTENTION here is NO PREFERENTIAL VOTING.
That our first and intended vote, not be used to put third past the post in office.
LEXI history will show my charges are honest and true,rabble defecting from my party's extremes live in the greens
Brown just weeks ago, was confronted with this truth.
GET DOWN OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE. pass honest bills or face a double dissolution!
It is known Labor would not win, but he knew I know it would have reduced his senate representation to 3 or less.
I will not be stopped from being honest my claim AUSTRALIANS 4 to one or very near it, are afraid of the radical nature of the greens.
I have been diverted by the need to defend myself, my understanding.
But know, I honestly think, Australians are unhappy that without knowing it,their second or third preferences put such as Wilkie in Parliament.
Morganzola, has here,in this thread, told me its supports DEMOCRACY that he took a seat from two who finished in front of him?
No preferential voting let my vote be for ONLY the person I wish it too.
Morganzola, is it the policy of you or your party to silence views you do not like?
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 2:16:39 PM
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Belly, I'm not in pain, but your posts are becoming increasingly painful to read. Who said anything about silencing anybody's views? You're entitled to post whatever you like, and I'm entitled to point out when you're wrong.

Of course you're forced to defend yourself when you put forward ideas that are based on ignorance, flawed understanding and misrepresentation. Or aren't people allowed to disagree with you?

If anybody's getting extreme, it's you old ALP true believers publishing increasingly desperate confabulations about the Greens, in a misguided effort to protect your beloved party. Sorry mate, its time in the political sun and yours are over if this is your approach to the new political paradigm that is developing in Australia.
Posted by morganzola, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 5:04:17 PM
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Morganzola:>>Belly, I'm not in pain, but your posts are becoming increasingly painful to read I Sorry mate, its time in the political sun and yours are over if this is your approach to the new political paradigm that is developing in Australia.<<

Sorry to bring you back from global domination Gorgonzola but the greens scraped together 12% nationally, 11-7% actually. You have the Senate for a while but your support will be decimated next Federal election. I know two mature greens that have had enough, they have families to support, so the disenchanted Labor pleb whose vote you got last time has bolted, they are going to be in a bind as to where to go, but they aint going back to green. I suggest you Heil Brown now, because in five years he will just be a dirty taste in someone’s mouth.
Posted by sonofgloin, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 5:41:52 PM
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Oh come on, SOG. Global domination, Heil Brown? You can't expect to be taken seriously if you actually believe such fanciful, if not paranoid, drivel.

The Greens latest electoral success is no blip. At every level of government in Australia the Greens have been steadily increasing their proportion of the vote, and the number of elected representatives, over successive elections for 20 or so years now.

12% you say? If you were actually in favour of democracy you'd agree that they'd be entitled to 12% of the seats in parliament, ditto with Belly. The Greens don't want to rule Australia or the world - they just want fair representation in parliament, in order to try and achieve a socially just and ecologically sustainable Australia and planet.
Posted by morganzola, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 6:57:17 PM
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