OUG,Don't expect too much from the blind.I'll give you all an insight into the Global political power plays.

Note with the so called assassination of Bin Laden,the USA neo cons tried to blame Pakistan and China called their bluff saying an attack on Pakistan will be construed as an attack on its' sovereignity.

Well,just a few weeks ago China was for the first time invited to the annual Bilderberg meeting in Switzerland.This is a meeting of the most rich and powerful in the West to determine strategies.Aust never gets an invite.Fukushima is my view has been an influence since the radiation has been equivalent to a small nuclear war.The West and NATO cannot win a conventional war against China + Russia.The USA was relying on its' mini nuke capacity to subdue its' enemies but even they put out enormous amounts of radiation.So the power game has now shifted in my view to China + Russia + Pakistan+ Iran and maybe India who are seeing which way the wind is blowing.Remember China is free from the private Western Banking debt system because of its' Govt owned banks.

What the Central Banks of the West might be trying,is a deal with China to carve up the assets of the West when they pull the pin via the restriction of credit.China has recently offered to bail out Greece.They may off load some of the US debt by using US $ they hold as debt.

China is the only country which has the man power to take on the armed populace of the USA,that has over 200 million weapons.So the banksters may force the USA into a deep economic hole and give China the economic and military advantage.Don't forget too these banksters are under seige at home in the USA and Europe.Their escape may well be doing a deal with China and betray even the vast majority who currently support them.

Obama needs to increase the debt to expand the wars and this gives the US Fed more leverage to control the Govt.Interesting times eh?

On the subject of debt, Arjay, have you noticed what China has been up to?

>>Remember China is free from the private Western Banking debt system because of its' Govt owned banks.<<

And the difference in real terms is precisely what, Arjay?

While the West was "baling out the Banks", China's Banks were lending heavily to local authorities for their projects - a bit like Rudd's BER, only on steroids. They lent somewhere between a quarter and a half of GDP - and that's not chicken-feed.

http://www.economist.com/node/18775343

And what happens now that some of those loans cannot be repaid? Why, they will "consolidate thousands of investment vehicles and hive off some of their debts into separate companies open to private investors"

No wonder they wanted to get involved in Bilderberg. They are now in big-boy financial territory.

This statement of yours also caught my eye.

>>China has recently offered to bail out Greece.They may off load some of the US debt by using US $ they hold as debt.<<

That is obviously some kind of secret code, because it doesn't mean anything in English. How exactly did China offer to "bail out" Greece?

And how can anyone "offload US debt" using "US $ they hold as debt"?

I obviously makes some sense to you, or you wouldn't have written it. But could you explain it to the rest of us?

You still haven't told us all, by the way, exactly which 9/11 conspiracy theory you subscribe to. I hope it isn't the one where bin Laden secretly worked for the CIA. That would be too funny, even for a Tuesday morning.

per's quote...""Remember China
is free from the private Western Banking debt system
because of its' Govt owned banks.<<

And the difference in real terms is precisely what, Arjay?""

thats tooo easy
look at what THEY can do
ANYTHING*[all govts HAD that power..till the elites stole the fede/mint/treasury]

look at the qld treasury 'building'
now a gambling den

WHERE IS THE TREASURE
gold silver copper its all goping or gone
[the gold was 'leased' out to banks...who sold it]
but being a lease..must return it...!

ie pay the rent..[lease]
or prove they DIDNT collude..to STEAL THE GOLD!

""While the West was "baling out the Banks",""

yes bailing out the banks
BY LENDING FROM....'the banks'

thats a neat trick
only by fractional reserve lending
we bail them out..that fraction creates the credit
WE NOW MUST PAY BACK...lol..to the banks...lol

who bailed out whom?
its bankers dent..now its our debt
and they al get a big bonus

""China's Banks were lending heavily""

because the govt holds all its wealth
[ie commumism wins]..noting when ussr failed
the shares/assets WENT TO THE PEOPLE

but when capitalists[babnks] failed
the people lol got the debt..and the banks got the assets
[treasury/fed/mint..note printing 'branch'

""a bit like Rudd's BER, only on steroids.""

yes i gave him the idea
i said top down DONT work
give the cash to the consumers
kep them consuming..CHOSING who gets THEIR cash

TOP DOWN[trickle affect]..is as failed a theory as capitalism

name one huge thing...'capitaklists'..
didnt use govt funds to build

govts [pay for wars
pay for the rebuilding
then the capitalists get the cream

and we bailout their debt bet...lol
by lending..THEIR bailout..
FROM THEM...lol...

so all we hold is their ODIOUS/debt
empty promises to fill empty purses

OUG,Let's do some basic concepts of banking/economics for the slow learners.
Q; Why is it necessary to create new money in any economy?
Ans; Because people worker harder,improvements in technology and pop growth.
Q; Who should own the increases in productivity? A select group of private banks, or the whole of society who produced it? GDP/productivity increases get expressed by an increase in the money supply and in our system,private banks own our GDP by creating it as debt.The more productivty we have,the more debt we incur.China's Govt banks create 80% of new money free from private bank debt.China can grow at 10-12% while the West 3% or less.This is why they are buying up our assets at basement prices.We have to sell off assets to pay for debt to private off shore banks.

This is where Pericles has a disconnect with reality.He does not associate increases in GDP or productivity with increases in the money supply.In Pericles' imaginery world,only derivatives or credit default swaps have value.Their imaginary money is based on expectation with no real production backing it.Webster Tarpley says that the derivatives are $ 150 trillion and are woven into the real markets.This is why we need a Glass Stegal Act to triage the derivatives and let the real economy prosper.

Support RON PAUL.END THE US FEDERAL RESERVE!

[seems mossad hit the wrong iranian]
http://islamist.com/p361956-israel-mossad-shoots-wrong-iran-nuke.cfm

first this

The semi-official ISNA news agency
identified the victim as Darioush Rezaei,
a 35-year-old physics professor involved in Iran’s nuclear program,

BUT THAT WAS A LIE...joke?
http://www.bobtuskin.com/2011/07/23/iranian-nuclear-scientist-%E2%80%98assassinated%E2%80%99/

but here is another sad mossad joke..[in nor-way]
it began..a few days ago
ended in mass murder

it began with this
http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/abbas-to-meet-norwegian-foreign-minister/
Palestinian leader President Mahmoud Abbas is in Norway, Monday, for a working lunch with FM Jonas Gahr Støre to discuss the peace process and the current situation in Palestine

next

http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/07/19/53408557.html
Norway to support Palestinians – Norwegian FM

Norway will support Palestinians
who are set to press for recognition of the independence of their state by the United Nations,..says the Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre...

next we had a youth rally
in support of a free palistein
http://tinyurl.com/3zhsj4w

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2011/07/youthcamp-killer-may-have-anti-palestine-motive.html

the murders own words
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.document.no%2Fanders-behring-breivik%2F

of course the usual al quarda propaganda[lies]

http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/islamic-extremist-claims-responsibility-for-oslo-bombing-group-retracts/
Helpers of the Global Jihad [read mossad]

have since issued a retraction
of their earlier statement claiming
that they* caused the bombing in central Oslo.

Oslo bomber is a Norwegian Freemason and a super ZIONIST!
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/blog/joeblow/oslo-bomber-norwegian-freemason-and-super-zionist

He was part of the Jewish anti-Muslim movement
in Europe by way of the Fjordman Organization.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fjordman

Quote:
Fjordman is an anonymous Norwegian blogger.
He writes articles critical of Islam and
he regards Muslim immigration as posing
a threat to Western civilization.
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2575

fake?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fakealqaeda.php
other flash backs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillehammer_affair

mossad fake blogging army
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/850/298/Israel_Hires_Internet_Soldiers_to_Penetrate_American_Forums,_Chatrooms.html

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/07/analyzing-oslo-attacks-part-two-if-it.html

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2011/07/23/norwegian-terror-when-in-doubt-blame-the-muslims/

http://lonestarwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/07/is-false-flag-terror-card-getting.html

http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2011/07/22/yet-another-program-on-what-do-white-jewish-think-tankers-in-d-c-think-the-u-s-should-do-about-iran/

recall christ church
seems a mossad agen[with multiple pasports
was found in a crushed car]
no link..but

more FROM..
the same old jokers

http://www.bobtuskin.com/2011/07/23/israel-urged-to-stop-faking-foreign-passports/
http://www.jeff-goodall.com/?p=5403
two killers
http://en.rian.ru/world/20110723/165350450.html

http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=15810
http://bullionbullscanada.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=21642:economic-rape-of-europe-nearly-complete-part-i&catid=45:international-commentary&Itemid=133

http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2011/07/israel-shamir-why-palestine-is-important-2/
http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/the-omnipotence-of-al-qaeda-an?xg_source=activity
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=15819

looks like an insiders job
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2011/07/norway-attacks-suspect-anders-breivik.html

ripe for exploitation
http://yayacanada.blogspot.com/2011/07/norway-tragedy-already-exploited-by.html

just..like
911 practice pr/actice pr/act-ice
http://theintelhub.com/2011/07/23/norway-terror-attacks-now-being-compared-to-oklahoma-city-bombing-as-evidence-of-false-flag-operation-continues-to-mount/

yeah i know
you dont read links

but see the joke
http://www.bobtuskin.com/2011/07/23/no-normalisation-unless-israel-apologises-erdogan/