http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u03Xiz4i26w&feature=player_embedded
Susan Lindauer covered Libya at the UN during the negotiations of the Lockerby Trial,so she has an extensive knowledge of Libyan history.

Susan is very disappointed with Obama saying he creating more terrorists.In fact the rebels who supposedly fight for freedom are now backed by Ql Qaeda.So we now fight Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and support them in Lybia.

In August Obama will raise the debt ceiling from $14.5 trillion to $17 trillion.The GDP of the USA is only $15 trillion.The USA has spent $4 trillion on the wars against terrorism,with over 225,000 killed directly and many more wounded or die due to poverty and disease or depleted uranium.The USA cannot afford to repay the interest let alone principal.

The word from several souces and Susan say the USA will send troops into Libya in August.Gaddafi has distributed 2 million weapons to his civilian population to fight the NATO troops.This will unite the Libyan people behind Gaddafi and we shall see more unnecessay bloodshed and hate in the Middle East for no result.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx6kBn4qC3s&NR=1 Wayne Madsen reports from Tripoli the reality of NATO drones bombing fishing boats to weaken the defences of Libya.This is all about stealing Lybian oil.Gaddafi has used this oil to raise Libyan living standards to one of the highest in Africa.

The first casuality of war is the truth.

OK I see, we should never have stopped the grubby lunatic from murdering his people.
He had his country under control, paying troops from other than his own country to keep his slave nation under control.
His humanity is clear for those like your self arjay to see supplying drugs to assist his troops rape as many as they can insisting on it in fact.
Arjay! we never know who each of us are what reason we have for our views.
Of all those who post here you baffle me most.
Not your content, clearly it is totally biased and nearly every time untrue, but why would you be so anti west so willing to defend this family one of a few who truly think they can pass ownership of a Nation from despot father to despot son.

We never stopped Robert Mugabe from murdering his people in Zimbabwe and destroying his economy.Could it be the oil Belly?

Shame on you, Arjay.

A sad individual, who clearly has some emotional and mental issues, is your new champion of 9/11 "truth".

So do tell. How does her version of the "truth" sit alongside all the other versions of the "truth"?

As far as one can tell, she has been treated exceptionally well by her country. They dropped the espionage charges against her because she was clearly delusional, and they felt that letting her make a fool of herself in court would not be good for her health.

And "ex-CIA"? Who says? Oh, she does. That's all right then.

And why is she allowed to sell her book on Amazon, if it contained anything that was even tangentially associated with reality? Isn't the cabal of international banksters capable of silencing one sad lady? Why did she not simply disappear? Aren't they powerful enough?

Pick another hero, Arjay. This one has lower-than-zero credibility.

As you know Pericles there are plenty of Ex CIA like her who have real conscience.Robert Baer whom is highly recommended by Nick Kaldis Deputy Commissioner for Security and Terrorism for NSW,says that the evidence points to US Govt involvement in 911.

http://patriotsquestion911.com/ Robert Baer is there with other ex CIA.Milton Beardman Former Chief of operations in Pakistan etc.Philip Giraldi former CIA counter terrorism agent.Ray McGovern is also a high profile ex intelligence person who knows the truth.See also Siebel Edmonds ex FBI intelligence agent.

You won't argue the facts,just attack the messenger.

So what to we see on the front page of the Sunday Telegraph today? A story demonising Muslims who wear the Burka.What is on 60 minutes tonight? "In their footsteps" A story glorifying war.Gotta get those Muslim terrorists since those bastards have all the oil.

Who are the masters of deception that created all these wars and depravity? The international Central Banksters.ie Rothschilds, JP Morgan Rockerfellers etc.They financed both sides of the conflicts in both the world wars.Nothing has changed.

No, seriously Arjay.

>>You won't argue the facts,just attack the messenger.<<

I'm interested in how you reconcile the vast array of different conspiracy theories around 9/11. Susan Lindauer's included.

Since they can't all be right, which one do you yourself select. And why that one, in particular?

I'd be fascinated to hear your answer, should you have one handy.

Here is your logic fails you again Pericles.We deal in scientific facts.The science of 911 is far more true than AGW exponents or their detractors by miles.What Susan Lindaur says and what http://ae911truth.org/ says,are not mutually exclusive as you imply.Susan has been there along with Webster Tarpley and Wayne Madsen who are there presently.They all agree about what is really happening

And, Arjay...?

>>Susan has been there along with Webster Tarpley and Wayne Madsen who are there presently.They all agree about what is really happening<<

I'm sure they all agree that there is a conspiracy amongst an elite cabal of international banksters, whose sole goal is to oppress the citizens of the world, and bend them to their evil will. That's abundantly clear.

But what about 9/11?

How did it happen, do they think? And of all the many theories, which one do you subscribe to, and why?

Of all the humor in the world, I love it all.
You my poor arjay are master of putting ones self down.
And Laugh?
My Friend every time you tell the few of us who answer you we fail to see truth.
That your views are based on science or facts.
That we attack the messenger not the message.
I an adult old bloke giggle like a happy kid.
You plant your plots, water them , and watch the very soil die.
You by crying wolf, serve best, the real conspiracy's in this world, after reading your posts, if some one tells me my pants are con fire I will wait until the smoke rises.

per-ridicules quote..'"But what about 9/11?

How did it happen,""

some remote controled planes flew into two buildings
some smokey fires burnt..at low temp
then the thermite took out the supporting colums
and the buildings collapsed into their own footprint

this was on the day ..when that very thing
was being 'practiced'...dickcheney was in total control

the building was as a condition of contract
under legalm obligation of lease...to remove asbestos
costing in excess of 2 billion just for insurance
it was then insured via isral insurance[twice]..for the same event

had the same event..happend to your home
AND CALLED IMMEDIATLY..*'an act of war''
your insurance would deney liability
pointing out the war clause of your insurance contract

more important is the why
[to get bushce re-elected..
by the fight or flight reflex increasing his populatity]

another why..is the ecomomy [markets]..
were going tyo go bust that very day
thus cheney went ahead with the destraction

OTHER stel frame buildings..have burned hotter and longer
and ben hit by bigger planes..yet only 3 stel frame buildings EVER
have collapsed [all within one day...all on 911...

and building seven..WASNT EVEN HIT BY A PLANE...lol

your so gullable...per ridicules
try to correct but a few points
I HAVE REPEATEDLY MADE

yet you continually ignore

think mate...phycopaths..dont need reasons
they only respect other phyco[paths]
the natzies machinemen...didnt
[dont..ever get caught]

only their patsies..like mr cia bin lardin..[bin liner]..
or sadman insane[ex cia]..get blame

zieg heil..[shalom]
the 5 rieche is in the holy land..!

OUG,Don't expect too much from the blind.I'll give you all an insight into the Global political power plays.

Note with the so called assassination of Bin Laden,the USA neo cons tried to blame Pakistan and China called their bluff saying an attack on Pakistan will be construed as an attack on its' sovereignity.

Well,just a few weeks ago China was for the first time invited to the annual Bilderberg meeting in Switzerland.This is a meeting of the most rich and powerful in the West to determine strategies.Aust never gets an invite.Fukushima is my view has been an influence since the radiation has been equivalent to a small nuclear war.The West and NATO cannot win a conventional war against China + Russia.The USA was relying on its' mini nuke capacity to subdue its' enemies but even they put out enormous amounts of radiation.So the power game has now shifted in my view to China + Russia + Pakistan+ Iran and maybe India who are seeing which way the wind is blowing.Remember China is free from the private Western Banking debt system because of its' Govt owned banks.

What the Central Banks of the West might be trying,is a deal with China to carve up the assets of the West when they pull the pin via the restriction of credit.China has recently offered to bail out Greece.They may off load some of the US debt by using US $ they hold as debt.

China is the only country which has the man power to take on the armed populace of the USA,that has over 200 million weapons.So the banksters may force the USA into a deep economic hole and give China the economic and military advantage.Don't forget too these banksters are under seige at home in the USA and Europe.Their escape may well be doing a deal with China and betray even the vast majority who currently support them.

Obama needs to increase the debt to expand the wars and this gives the US Fed more leverage to control the Govt.Interesting times eh?

On the subject of debt, Arjay, have you noticed what China has been up to?

>>Remember China is free from the private Western Banking debt system because of its' Govt owned banks.<<

And the difference in real terms is precisely what, Arjay?

While the West was "baling out the Banks", China's Banks were lending heavily to local authorities for their projects - a bit like Rudd's BER, only on steroids. They lent somewhere between a quarter and a half of GDP - and that's not chicken-feed.

http://www.economist.com/node/18775343

And what happens now that some of those loans cannot be repaid? Why, they will "consolidate thousands of investment vehicles and hive off some of their debts into separate companies open to private investors"

No wonder they wanted to get involved in Bilderberg. They are now in big-boy financial territory.

This statement of yours also caught my eye.

>>China has recently offered to bail out Greece.They may off load some of the US debt by using US $ they hold as debt.<<

That is obviously some kind of secret code, because it doesn't mean anything in English. How exactly did China offer to "bail out" Greece?

And how can anyone "offload US debt" using "US $ they hold as debt"?

I obviously makes some sense to you, or you wouldn't have written it. But could you explain it to the rest of us?

You still haven't told us all, by the way, exactly which 9/11 conspiracy theory you subscribe to. I hope it isn't the one where bin Laden secretly worked for the CIA. That would be too funny, even for a Tuesday morning.

per's quote...""Remember China
is free from the private Western Banking debt system
because of its' Govt owned banks.<<

And the difference in real terms is precisely what, Arjay?""

thats tooo easy
look at what THEY can do
ANYTHING*[all govts HAD that power..till the elites stole the fede/mint/treasury]

look at the qld treasury 'building'
now a gambling den

WHERE IS THE TREASURE
gold silver copper its all goping or gone
[the gold was 'leased' out to banks...who sold it]
but being a lease..must return it...!

ie pay the rent..[lease]
or prove they DIDNT collude..to STEAL THE GOLD!

""While the West was "baling out the Banks",""

yes bailing out the banks
BY LENDING FROM....'the banks'

thats a neat trick
only by fractional reserve lending
we bail them out..that fraction creates the credit
WE NOW MUST PAY BACK...lol..to the banks...lol

who bailed out whom?
its bankers dent..now its our debt
and they al get a big bonus

""China's Banks were lending heavily""

because the govt holds all its wealth
[ie commumism wins]..noting when ussr failed
the shares/assets WENT TO THE PEOPLE

but when capitalists[babnks] failed
the people lol got the debt..and the banks got the assets
[treasury/fed/mint..note printing 'branch'

""a bit like Rudd's BER, only on steroids.""

yes i gave him the idea
i said top down DONT work
give the cash to the consumers
kep them consuming..CHOSING who gets THEIR cash

TOP DOWN[trickle affect]..is as failed a theory as capitalism

name one huge thing...'capitaklists'..
didnt use govt funds to build

govts [pay for wars
pay for the rebuilding
then the capitalists get the cream

and we bailout their debt bet...lol
by lending..THEIR bailout..
FROM THEM...lol...

so all we hold is their ODIOUS/debt
empty promises to fill empty purses

OUG,Let's do some basic concepts of banking/economics for the slow learners.
Q; Why is it necessary to create new money in any economy?
Ans; Because people worker harder,improvements in technology and pop growth.
Q; Who should own the increases in productivity? A select group of private banks, or the whole of society who produced it? GDP/productivity increases get expressed by an increase in the money supply and in our system,private banks own our GDP by creating it as debt.The more productivty we have,the more debt we incur.China's Govt banks create 80% of new money free from private bank debt.China can grow at 10-12% while the West 3% or less.This is why they are buying up our assets at basement prices.We have to sell off assets to pay for debt to private off shore banks.

This is where Pericles has a disconnect with reality.He does not associate increases in GDP or productivity with increases in the money supply.In Pericles' imaginery world,only derivatives or credit default swaps have value.Their imaginary money is based on expectation with no real production backing it.Webster Tarpley says that the derivatives are $ 150 trillion and are woven into the real markets.This is why we need a Glass Stegal Act to triage the derivatives and let the real economy prosper.

Support RON PAUL.END THE US FEDERAL RESERVE!

[seems mossad hit the wrong iranian]
http://islamist.com/p361956-israel-mossad-shoots-wrong-iran-nuke.cfm

first this

The semi-official ISNA news agency
identified the victim as Darioush Rezaei,
a 35-year-old physics professor involved in Iran’s nuclear program,

BUT THAT WAS A LIE...joke?
http://www.bobtuskin.com/2011/07/23/iranian-nuclear-scientist-%E2%80%98assassinated%E2%80%99/

but here is another sad mossad joke..[in nor-way]
it began..a few days ago
ended in mass murder

it began with this
http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/abbas-to-meet-norwegian-foreign-minister/
Palestinian leader President Mahmoud Abbas is in Norway, Monday, for a working lunch with FM Jonas Gahr Støre to discuss the peace process and the current situation in Palestine

next

http://english.ruvr.ru/2011/07/19/53408557.html
Norway to support Palestinians – Norwegian FM

Norway will support Palestinians
who are set to press for recognition of the independence of their state by the United Nations,..says the Norwegian Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Støre...

next we had a youth rally
in support of a free palistein
http://tinyurl.com/3zhsj4w

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2011/07/youthcamp-killer-may-have-anti-palestine-motive.html

the murders own words
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.document.no%2Fanders-behring-breivik%2F

of course the usual al quarda propaganda[lies]

http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/islamic-extremist-claims-responsibility-for-oslo-bombing-group-retracts/
Helpers of the Global Jihad [read mossad]

have since issued a retraction
of their earlier statement claiming
that they* caused the bombing in central Oslo.

Oslo bomber is a Norwegian Freemason and a super ZIONIST!
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/blog/joeblow/oslo-bomber-norwegian-freemason-and-super-zionist

He was part of the Jewish anti-Muslim movement
in Europe by way of the Fjordman Organization.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fjordman

Quote:
Fjordman is an anonymous Norwegian blogger.
He writes articles critical of Islam and
he regards Muslim immigration as posing
a threat to Western civilization.
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2575

fake?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/fakealqaeda.php
other flash backs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lillehammer_affair

mossad fake blogging army
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/850/298/Israel_Hires_Internet_Soldiers_to_Penetrate_American_Forums,_Chatrooms.html

http://www.activistpost.com/2011/07/analyzing-oslo-attacks-part-two-if-it.html

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2011/07/23/norwegian-terror-when-in-doubt-blame-the-muslims/

http://lonestarwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/07/is-false-flag-terror-card-getting.html

http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2011/07/22/yet-another-program-on-what-do-white-jewish-think-tankers-in-d-c-think-the-u-s-should-do-about-iran/

recall christ church
seems a mossad agen[with multiple pasports
was found in a crushed car]
no link..but

more FROM..
the same old jokers

http://www.bobtuskin.com/2011/07/23/israel-urged-to-stop-faking-foreign-passports/
http://www.jeff-goodall.com/?p=5403
two killers
http://en.rian.ru/world/20110723/165350450.html

http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=15810
http://bullionbullscanada.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=21642:economic-rape-of-europe-nearly-complete-part-i&catid=45:international-commentary&Itemid=133

http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2011/07/israel-shamir-why-palestine-is-important-2/
http://12160.info/profiles/blogs/the-omnipotence-of-al-qaeda-an?xg_source=activity
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=15819

looks like an insiders job
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2011/07/norway-attacks-suspect-anders-breivik.html

ripe for exploitation
http://yayacanada.blogspot.com/2011/07/norway-tragedy-already-exploited-by.html

just..like
911 practice pr/actice pr/act-ice
http://theintelhub.com/2011/07/23/norway-terror-attacks-now-being-compared-to-oklahoma-city-bombing-as-evidence-of-false-flag-operation-continues-to-mount/

yeah i know
you dont read links

but see the joke
http://www.bobtuskin.com/2011/07/23/no-normalisation-unless-israel-apologises-erdogan/