Dear Benedict XVI,

I am writing this letter to outline some true facts of life that maybe you guys need to look at for maintaining future endeavours of existence.

Campaigns of propaganda (hidden underline instigations) are not tolerated anymore; that’s propaganda campaigns in labelling; campaigns in an attempt to win over numbers; campaigns consisting of contradiction to citizen rights demonstrating of lack of tolerance towards other religions and other beliefs people have in life.

That means dogging on other beliefs and religions of various cultures of the world, using bible studies to influence followers, for the purpose of negative natured literature and social group natured digging at people not of your chosen belief.

As a reminder to date, there has never been and never will be any substantial evidence to such existence of a ‘God’ that’s of one and whole. What question is really the most important beginning of the universe or the beginning of man?

Fiction is just that, a design produced for a purpose, in your case being of guidance. The bible represents a guidebook for helping people focused on idealistic ideals in ordered life.

BrettH,
I am not Roman Catholic. However what view do you believe Catholics have of God? that you deny exists?

obratt
i will bite

*show your 'proof'*
that....*there isnt a god

mate some take things
too big for them to comprehend...ON faith]

like evolution..or religeon
both athiest and thiest take much on faith

take the THEORY of evolution for egsample
science..HAS NEVER MADE A LIFE...
and has never made claim..to have evolved it..into a new life
those claiming evolution as a god replacement..are severly confused in their faith

i prefer to trust god
rather than anything of man

especially when it comes to basic things..
others make claim..to do..or know
yet somehow..never deliver
revealing they dont know

here is the latest test
failed by athiests and evolutionists

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12050&page=0

IF YOU GOT PROOF...of no god
or got proof of lol...'evolution'
please help out the poor athieasts
and the lying/decieving evolutionists

who lied to kids..saying that there is no god...
and that 'evil lootion done it'

you claim the factual highground..*of fact/proof
PRESENT SOME*

present whatever you got
cause i know in reality you got nothing
but faint hope's/fears..
and unrelated facts of species...evolving..[micro/evolution..]
finches making bigger or thinner beaks etc

AB-used to say
genus evolution
ie that fish became[evolved]..lol
into mouse...or bacteria into bugs..or bugs into fish

MATE YOU GOT ANY PROOF?
present just one evolution...
NAME names..what became what..!

by what evi-dense*?

Other than the title I have not seen anything of interest so far.
I may just as well put my views to that title.
We born as Christians, even the fallen like me, should not forget the huge number of Gods man lays claim to.
To do so would be at least rude.
We claim freedom of religion in the western world,but also claim ours is the only God.
We actually divide the world with our belief and cultures around OUR GODS.
So I a former Christian believe in no God.
Yet maybe see, unsure, a fact in BrettH post, I have no doubts in inventing Gods man did many things.
Gave now but, more in the past, rules and boundary's to live by.
And the bright shining light for me is like every great book ever written it shows our best at work.
I carry a weight, in not beleiving in a God I know it is my own job/choice/ wanted action to live a good life and try to harm no one.
You will find in the followers of ANY GOD our very best and worst.
I will be defamed here, it is always so, for not thinking some follow the God they claim to, no God I ever knew of was a bigot.
If humanity is one, and our DNA confirms we are,we need to face it, pick a God, any one and let the rest go.
I have made my choice my faith is in humanity without the straw, we can and in time will launch ourselves on the waters of reality.

*show your 'proof'*
that....*there isnt a god

Show your proof that there is?

LEA

Dear Brett,

From your opening post I'm not sure just what your point is? You seem to be having a bit of a rant - but to what purpose? And what do you want the Pope to do exactly? Your post lacks any specifics - and when writing to someone you need to be more precise or else you won't be taken seriously. So please explain.

Does it really matter what others believe in?, most people have faith in SOME THING,if their faith gives them hope and comfort then so be it.....it is NOT for other people of other religious persuasions to criticize others. The damage done by fundamentalists of ALL religions causes much misery in this world, not to mention war and the disastrous effects it has on others, just in the name of religion.
Keep your belief to yourself, and don't subscribe to other folk who tell you that you are 'wrong' in what you have faith in.
A lot of wars (historically) have been fought in the name of religion.
And the aftermath is always there for others to 'clean up'.Do people really give pause to contemplate the damage inflicted on others in the name of religion? I doubt it., radical religious folk need to shut there mouths, put their heads down and continue with their own thoughts and leave others' beliefs to themselves.

SHow my proof plenty of.. and series of 5 will reveal further intel over next months..

How about show us non organisation proof of contesting statements made.

By the way this article is a letter sent to the pope for your viewing and comment..

Evidance to give to you to give to organisations or organisations to view inadvace would be mighty DUMB OF US in advance..

I don’t think so N S B, Wars are fought and made by GOVERNMENTS and their Elites , and Misery is caused by Governments and their Elites , The History books not written by Historicists plainly convey factual information to dispel your notion , and without Ambiguity.

Atheism is fundamentally a religious doctrine – Hegel - and is nothing other than a panphysicalist Universalism Metaphysical mysticism , and has more to do with doctrines set for a course to Totalitarianism and Statism as the past history will prove it to be, that it has been, and is all about the state of war and to eliminate Individualism; for Power - Wealth - and a prededitory form of Income stolen . Of course.

We sort of have to choke when the populist demagogies proclaim to be Atheistic and the Non believers in technical terms of this day, to be an insult to their own objective analysis and actual Rational investigation to which such protagonist and dogmatic doctrines emanated – For their Intuition tells them: The Zeitgeist has ordained the provident and inexorability of Socialism. The future is ours; or so they think (Oxymoron)

Just explodes the Progressives and Atheism theory to smithereens.

Just as rational Utilitarianism in science do not disagree; it is the Progressive mindset that conducts a campaign for the denunciation of Christian Ethics and Judaism ; to denounce that of the Book cover, and the basic content is reinvented by others as if it was a new doctrine.

Despotism- Nihilistic and Fatalism despotism is the end result; Kill the Infidels – Burn the Heretics – and for theProgressive and Atheists ; Liquidate the dissenters ; It is Democratic , therefore it is Just ; Guess who wrote that?

So time in memorial , The State Elites funding their depravity , Passed off to the public with an epithet of Science of these days ;But it be nothing other than Fatalistic Despotism.

To be honest, seeing that you have put this out there for feedback, I'd say the letter is a bit ineffective. Assuming that the Pope himself does read it, I don't know that he'd make head or tail of what you're saying. I can't.

Well, I get the gist of it, but some specificity may have helped. What propaganda campaigns specifically do you have in mind? What "dogging on other beliefs and religions"? I'm sure there's a rational reason behind this, and I'm sure that an event or series of events has prompted it, but you don't make that particularly clear.

As for the old "existence of God" pearler, those who are having a go at BrettH should keep in mind that he doesn't say God doesn't exist, and he doesn't demand evidence that He does. While it appears clear that Brett believes in no God/god/gods, he at least practises what he preaches and shows some respect for the fact that other people DO believe. In that regard, he has a valid point by raising the statement that there is no substantial evidence.

I believe in God - my posts in here have made that clear many times. I have reasons for that belief - experiential ones as well as teachings and upbringing. They are personal, however, and I'm very aware that people who have been through the same things may well interpret them differently. The key, as appears to be the thrust of Brett's letter, is to respect that fact.

Hi Brett,
I think you will be surprised. If you really sent a letter to the Pope, you will get a personal answer. Compare that with our pollies, who send form letters no matter what the issue.
I think you should also consider which organisations you should be criticising. The catholic church and many other churches have been in the forefront of providing assistance to the most helpless and needy in our community. Why not throw some money to Vinnies, or the Sallies, or Red Crescent/Cross rather than carp!

It's amazing what people will make themselves believe when faced with the inevitablility and fear of death.

It's also amazing what people are prepared to do in the name of such belief - both good and evil.

one under god, I await any evidence of creationism with much interest.
Evolution is still a theory but is backed up by scientific evidence.

So is gravity.

Omniscience is denied to man Wobbles; we cannot know how a God or Supreme Being sees things , or how a perfect being may think in relation to the Universe , Mankind can only perceive what the logical structure of our minds allows us ; By Reasoning alone.
Science in many fields disprove the Evolutionary theory in most cases, but without any other tenable theory that refutes some aspects of Darwinian Ideas , then that theory remains in place until a more tenable theory replaces it ; And there is Not such a thing as perfect science , it is always evolving and changing as Ideas and theories are tested.

That in a nut shell is Evolution, and not the theory of producing something from nothing when nothing exists; it Defies any Logic and can only remain as an anathema to Man , and infers Mysticism , As Engles describes , the negation of the negation ;It is Not science , but a metaphysical realm inferred - Language and words change the conceptual meaning of things , and do not describe things how they are in relation to Fact , but describe them how others would like them to be without proof or any Fact.

No reason or intention to be unkind.
I can not grasp what BrettH wants to say.
'It is not unusual to write letters to such as the Pope.
However a kindly reply may not signal he understood a word of it.
I can not, I feel like I am trying to unscramble an egg.
Religion, all of them, can both be thanked and blamed, but unsure even if that is the intention here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13819764
When will we ever learn.
I am aware this is not Representative of the Jewish people.
But when will humanity stop bending in the wind and stand up for values and beliefs we invented not our other invention Gods.

Seems like the thread got off to a bad start and has withered but my last post, its link,was as strange as any claim I have ever seen about any religion.

i havnt checked the link yet belly
but whatever its about..this is by men

mere men..subverting knowledge of god

its much like wobbles
asking for 'proof..of creation'
well hes living the proof...we live..cause something created us

be it our parents...or by test tube
religion says god did the first 'creation'
science says evolution...
yet it has no proof*

BUT either way..we EITHER
trust in men...or trust in god
those trusting in god..will let god explain it
those TRUSTING IN MENS THEORIES...MUST present their science

thing is SCIENCE has no facts
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12050&page=0

refuses to present their proof..cause they got none
thus keep demanding of us to prove our faith...
while ignoring..all THEY got is faith
in their THEORY

science NEEDS PROOF
or else the best you got is faith

and the fruit of lies
i would suggest..lies in your link
this

lol..that*..is what we get..

..WHEN man puts themselves abouve good[god]
theorises BEYOND..the simple facts..
like the lie of evolution..does

if they had proof of evolving
they would surly have evolved their theory
but its clear they got no proof...yet refuse to believe
ALL THEY GOT IS FAITH IN A MANMADE..[god-less]..or accidental theory*

evolution is mearly yet..*the next 'religeon'
so the sHHHeeple...do as we say..

not do,..what we[man kind]..are seen to do
which is so clearly not good..not loving or mercyfull
that thus is NOT of god..thus is cLEARLY error of man/men..