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Butt out Cate

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Philo,
Our relative emissions may seem low but that's also because most of our manufacturing has been outsourced to China and India and they have to wear the carbon they produce on our behalf.

Also, if our major trading partners go ahead and introduce limits, how long before they notice we are doing nothing in return?

I suspect they will have to apply economic sanctions against our exports until we fall into line with them and then we will be faced with a massive catch-up scenario which will be far more expensive to implement.
Posted by rache, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 1:54:59 AM
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Rache,

That's the whole point. If our major trading partners put a price on carbon, that's when we do.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 5:42:46 AM
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Australia will be the looser.
Philo,
A big YEP !
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 5:48:24 AM
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Each of us has every right to their views.
To be wrong and to be right.
To be uninformed or have an understanding of the issue.
We will always differ, on this issue we war.
Truth is the first victim.
Mud as much the weapon as blindness.
Banjo, Mate,it is your words, not my thoughts that I have religious zeal here.
Now retired,I run my own weather station as a hobby, read past DAILY rain fall documents extending back 55 years.
Have read 5 city and three local papers on line this morning.
Will read 3 international ones during my lunch break from the garden.
I HUNT for documentation from BOTH sides of this debate.
This is true, one side is wrong.
No half way we either are hurting our planet or lying to every one.
IF we lie why, if we are hurting why?
From the years we started to burn fossil fuels, to grow our population at 50 times its past growth rate.
From those days only 250 years ago man pollutes almost every thing we touch.
If you look at the history you will see big money hid its understanding Asbestos killed, to protect money,it is telling us smoking is ok it just maybe in fact they lie now.
Time will prove one of us wrong, if it is me , no hiding it,I will feel shame.
But mate the evidence is in you must one day sup on humble pie.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 5:53:49 AM
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bellies reading papers
[not research papers mind]..
but spin wrapped up as 'news'...papers]

clicking on headings
is hardly 'reading the news/paper

i too can scan 5 news papers in a morning
treading them fully would take all day

but lets go away from the easy stuff
bells has a weather station...[plus his solar cells]

do you run a heater by chance belly?
what im getting at is there is a heat shadow from your home
if the wind blows just right..your measuring your own polution[your opwn heat shadow]

if its not automated its by your rooteen
reading at different times gives different readings
[ps have you noticed this year the wether cycle has turned?

recall the floods in usa
[you must have read that in the papers]
well they are the RESULT[fruit]..of the masive snow falls
[of last winter's fall's...

think how its taken till now..to melt...
as we face the 'first day of winter'..here
but its beenm winter for weeks..[even the snow fields have snow]

so mater guess what
warming is ccccrap

so the c02...needs now be upped,..,not reduced
govt got the tax so lets now pay only big users
[the world has gone nuts mate]

here we got compensation TO THE POLUTERS...!
[yet on the other hand...people been holding back..
from investing..cause of uncertainty...[lol]

germ/mans are getting rid of their uranium generators..[by 2022]
get rid is a relitive term...meaning

govt will be spending billions
dismantling them..for the NEXT 100 years...

[they decommisioned..just one in 64...
spent two billion so far..
and got 40 years..*more to go
to get it 'gone']

these only made 15%..of germaniac power need
the rest was coal...[its likely they will go gas]

but...BUT...IF THEY GET IT WRONG
their power grid spans europe/uk

if we get it wrong
we're..by ourselves

just TAX exports
give the tax to the poor

problem fixed
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 8:08:45 AM
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if YOUR party got it qwrong
were going to go broke

but mate you would have read
about the mobile phone radiation
causing CERTAIN brain cancer...get it

lol cancers that go into smoking statistics*
no wonder the kids appear brain dead

but then again its the 'mad cow' kicking in
from the big macs they had to have..as kids
all them lovely transfats..and msg..and asbestos...yum

booze is the 2de highest cause of cancer
so drink up bloke

did you see the yanki drunk on insight?

did you see the liar
on insight last night?

his most common reply was
i will answer that later
BUT LATER NEVER CAME..

thats the lying game...its such a joke

but he didnt refute
that man causing 3% only number
his reasoning said..we use x c02..in the cycle

[yet another lie...plants use more
if there is more]..SO HIS MODELS ARE BASED ON A LIE..!
he dont facter in..extra growth..*because of extra c02..ie HE LIES*]

only convinced 2
to change their opinion
lol

fool us onece sham on me
fool us twice shame on you

BOTH PARTIES LIE*!>!
believing one..to be better
is to have swallowed..the lie..

[the real problem
is public $ERVANTS
and the me-dia]

who stay!
after the po-lies go..
who subvert/train the new mob..of po-lies
[with traditional public sir-vice..decietes/teqniques]
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 8:15:18 AM
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