Steven,
I am aware of that. It seems csteele is not.

I could have sworn that you explained it to him quite plainly.

No intention to offend, I truly think csteel is female.
While that may not be true my opinion about him/her are unshakable.
I am from the new left.
No Socialist left,Communist left, just left of the conservatives position they once held.
Before migrating to the tea party right.
Csteele lives in a past that was always not quite what it seemed,it promoted equality and human rights, but did nothing for either.
Those who bought about real change are the ancestors to the ALP/UNION movement.
We are no Friends of the Australian, or the shattered left now known as the greens.
Csteele cares little for the victims of Saudi Arabia, this mornings story of a woman activist arrested by that country's religious police, for daring to wish to learn to? drive a car!
Throw those verbal rocks at us ,heave them ,but understand both Liberal and Labor care more for human rights than the fraudulent left overs from a once proud movement.
Left has left its concerns for fairness long ago, it cares only to spoil now,you are doing well csteel.

Dear Banjo,

Don’t you read my posts?

You claim “In relation to the jewish 'courts', as far as i can read and from what Steven and pericles have said, these are arbitration bodies and their findings are not law in Aus.” Sure. Go tell that to the congregation of Rabbi Gutnick who now have to mortgage their synagogue and pay the court costs of the NSW Supreme Court.

The counsel for the congregation argued in the Supreme Court that because of their parlous financial state they had to let the good Rabbi go since to keep him and risk almost certain insolvency would be against the Corporations Law of Australia.

The Rabbi had claimed he had ‘lifetime tenure’. I get that the Pope has life tenure and it is used to a degree in our judicial system (at least to retirement age) but I would have thought it was an alien concept to Australians for other offices.

The NSW judge agreed with the arguments put by the Rabbi’s side and added he felt the case could be adjudicated more “efficiently” through the Jewish Court System.

Here is the kicker, the London Beth Din found that ““there are clear Halachic grounds for a claimant to recover his costs from a defendant, where, after a defendant has refused to attend a Din Torah for the resolution of a dispute, the claimant has taken action in the civil courts”. The Beth Din found that “we are satisfied on the basis of the correspondence of the parties… that the Rabbi made repeated requests for a Din Torah and the Synagogue bluntly refused to attend.” The Beth Din found that “the Rabbi is entitled to recover the costs of the Court proceedings from the Synagogue”.

So because the congregation had refused to have the matter heard in a religious court in Australia they were taken to a civil court within NSW and forced to front up to the overseas version and pay for the privilege.

Dear Loudmouth,

To clarify, the ‘we’ are those reasonable types who are proud of the compassion and accommodation shown to post-war Jewish immigrants including the allowing a form of Jewish religious courts within our country. We wish to continue being proud.

Dear Belly,

Why would thinking someone was a female be offensive unless you thought it was a lesser state?

csteele,
You are whistling in the wind.

Just because one party in a dispute decides to use our civil courts does not make the Jewish court in Aus able to rule on matters of law. I say again, jewish couples seeking divorce must do so in our civl courts. Only our courts have authority to rule on law in Aus. Other bodies may arbitrate or mediate but only our courts can rule on law.

The submission by AFIC is requesting that certain aspects of Sharia be made law in Aus. This would be a fundemental change to our judicial system and must be resisted at all cost. I hope the Attorney Generals view is retained.

csteel no not in my mind but maybe yours?
Can you tell me want you want for women in the Muslim world.
Or what you think of the Sharia law that has seen women publicly hanged from a cherry picker in Iran, in front of thousands.
View please on death by stoning sentences.
A child born out of wedlock can not inherit ok with that.
My best mates,two dogs at my feet are unclean, could be shot for entering the wrong yard that ok.
Do you practice a religion, does it want to run every part of your life.
OK is it to turn a sporting Field in to a public execution place and pack it with screaming watchers, new sport?