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I Don't Believe in the Death Penalty but I am Glad he is Dead

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im sad that so many[good and true..like most of you]
chose to act insane...[just like the dancing israelies at 911
or the media footage showing paid acters dancing in the streets at 911

but lets see if were still dancing
when ww3 begins

how many you want to die
[and this is NOTHING to do with killing a media image
the bin larden bogie man...made created promoted by cia/mossad

why mossad i hear you say?

Iranian state TV carries report of Israeli build-up
to premptivlt attack iran....[to wit kill goyam and semite arabs]

hoping to bring in their messiah
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_iran_israel_report

Iranian state television ran a report Monday saying Israeli military aircraft were massing at a U.S. air base in Iraq for a strike on Iran.

Commentary:
All that is missing is an "Al Qaeda Revenge Attack" (
nudge nudge wink wink) and World War 3 cranks up into rock and roll full tilt boogie kill them all and let god sort them out mode.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/177824.html

i knew there was a link
why else the media[zionist owned/controled media]
beating up a man dead for years..see other posts

other stuff
http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/will-bin-ladens-death-usher-in-the-end-of-islamophobia-and-war/

http://theintelhub.com/2011/05/02/fake-picture-used-as-osama-bin-laden-was-on-a-forum-in-2010pics/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-photo-fake?CMP=twt_fd

the more of this you hear
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=14797

the more shall die
[two thirds if the bible is right]

is it time for truth
or time for more war lies?

do you hate life that much?
live and let live

to quote the new testiment

''let the wheat grow with the tares'
let god sort it out

ignore the drums of war...!
what is israel fighting for?

need i keep searching?

search your heart
its time
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 8:44:46 AM
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I have found the responses to this topic very intriguing - some of the responses I could've predicted, others reveal a level of thoughtfulness that has enlightened me.

@R0bert

Thank you for your reply to Runner. I do feel particularly conflicted by my response to the news of Bin Laden's execution. In an ideal world he would've been brought to trial. In the real world (in the unlikely event he was captured alive) the trial would've been forever and I posit that it would cause more fall-out than what we can expect now.

Radical, inhuman response is practically a given from the fundamentalists. That's what they do - irrespective of their ideology, as Runner has already demonstrated. I am not a hypocrite - I typed the title to this topic as a honest response to the conflict of my beliefs (anti-death penalty) and the relief that after 10 years, Osama Bin Laden's spectre has been removed from this time and place.

I fear the predictable acts of vengeance - that's the thing about vengeance it is forever.

Best of Luck to all of us.
Posted by Ammonite, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 9:50:32 AM
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Ammonite

My apologies to you. Believe it or not it was not meant to be a personal attack on you. It does however show that in certain circumstances many who claim to be totally opposed to the death penalty really don't hold that dogma when faced with some evil.

What would of been far worse if Bin Laden was caught and brought to trial by some corrupt UN tribunal who would allow some sleazy lawyer to get him off. Interesting to see how many of the ex Guantanamo Bay innocents who got accepted into the UK as refugess are know off fighting again for Allah and are no doubt committing more atrocicies. Oh the rotten evil US!
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 10:05:24 AM
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My problem is that the "manufacture" of an evil entity is crucial to U.S. support for whatever it feels is it's imperative course of action.

Bin Laden popped up out of nowhere...and to be sure, we will see in the future another personification of evil presented to us in the same fashion.
But the line between fact and fiction is blurred - and we tend to believe what we are told because human morality dictates that on a community level that we must operate by trust.

So, who knows if bin Laden was the danger he was made out to be - or even if his reputation would have existed independently of U.S. efforts. Human's require an "evil" to fear to balance their ideas of right and wrong....and to provide moral "permission" to actions they would normally question.

And even if it's true that he was as presented - how do we know they got him? We only go on the lines we are fed.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 10:21:41 AM
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I think the world is probably better off without him.
I also think there is enough evidence to believe that he was, at the very least, the figurehead of terrorist groups who carried out a series of evil acts of terrorism in numerous locations against multiple religions & races.
I don't think his death will end terrorism; I fear there may well be some retaliation, but security will also be increased in many areas, in the short term at least, and will need to be maintained until things settle down.
I am a little suspicious of the "burial at sea" thing, but it would heve been a political nightmare and media circus to have brought him in for questioning.
I'm not sure that media streaming of wild celebrations in the USA were necessary or achieved anything positive. I suspect that most of us are satisfied that a "baddie" got what he deserved, but gloating? I don't know about that. Maybe a satisfied smile would have sufficed. That said, I didn't lose a family member in the World Trade Centre or Bali.
It will be intersting to see what happens on the terror front in the coming days/weeks/months.
Thanks
Posted by Radar, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 12:11:45 PM
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In my passage that we know as life I was a fellow traveler from the left.
Once briefly the very left,communism, then Socialism, now center left of the ALP [that is center unity our right side]
Always it was unfairness that drove me,my fellow travelers too my memory tells me, came along for those reasons.
Just as I grew up so did they, Budapest under Russian guns, Chekoslavakia, even Afghanistan put new light on communism.
It was a union and a pope Solidarity and we know who that pulled the first brick out of the Soviet Union.
I never stopped wanting better for those suffering.
But my old home, the shattered left,direction less left, seems intent on new directions.
Americas enemy's are their Friends, forget the slave like existence of women, the murders of children bombing of innocents.
Just find a way to hate America.
Not me, I know heaven is not there, this is my life, my pride is in standing for good against bad.
Sometimes we forget America does good too.
It did last night, it killed a monster many more to die, many to suffer but My youthful left, caring for some thing while blinded to our own sins has shrunk but learned nothing.
Do not over look the crimes against humanity and your support for them my lost loony left Wil Robinson's without those reasons to exist is not believable
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 12:45:53 PM
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