This is a poll asking for your input on if and when you have made a complaint via either Crime stoppers or CMC that you received response direct back from either of these divisions or not.

Have you used Cmc and all correspondence you have been redirected to Ethics Command, and did you receive a final report from Cmc or Ethics Command after investigation.

Crime stoppers did you make a complaint online and receive a response or never heard from them.. did they make good judgement if your complaint was a civil or criminal matter..

I made a complaint to the CJC soon after it started, that material that could ONLY have come from Police (it didn't exist anywhere else) turned up at various employer's of mine, with resultant loss of employment. Only one person had been left looking dumb enough by my case to have a personal reason for providing said information to employers (I actually had copies of the relevant documents, from several employers), the result?

Here's the punchline - they asked him if he did it and he said "No", so complaint dismissed.

The CMC is powerless to alter/change a decision of the Qld Police Service with regard to a complaint against Police, as was shown in its attempt to have disciplinary action taken against Chris Hurley (a man who has told 3-4 glaringly different versions, changing his story completely, even with regard to the cause of the blow, under oath) and/or the Officer's involved in concealing evidence (or deliberately botching the investigation so the evidence was inadmissable). The QPS declined to accept the CMC STRONG RECOMMENDATION that they be disciplined, so nothing happened. Thus despite knowing that various people DELIBERATELY distorted the evidence & perverted the course of justice, the CMC was powerless to affect any change.

So do I think the CMC is worth the money it costs to run, no.

I'm more interested to see what happens when the next cop gets away with murder.

Your task is an impossible one.
No progress can be made.
In truth a good cop is worth far more than we could ever pay them.
Worth their weight in Gold? far more.
But white wash and self protection, some thing every job has as part of its culture ,is always going to hide the truth and that is that.
Another concern is if you DOB me in I will tell what I know about you syndrome
Two decades ago, not far from here,a rort took place, apparently free food and goods, plus getting paid to reload/thieve them saw ,in time nearly a whole station get involved.
The few who stood against it,police and public, still today are greatly harmed by those days.
In one case a nondrinker was branded a drunk,phone calls to straight police, made in his name by a drunk who was in fact not drunk but fabricating false evidence to cover police crimes.
Remember what a good cop is,remember its not every one, but tell me, how do we tell the difference?

after my experience with the CMC I would simply dismantle that outfit due to no effect.

There are no institutions in Qld that can be trusted with anything.

Fitzgerald was a hiccup in the seamless connections between government and crime.

Qld, like NSW, is an endlessly corrupt state, but that seems to be 'the way' around the nation.

Ethics is not understood at any level in Qld, particularly within the public sector where one might expect it to be glimpsed, at least.

There is far too much reliance on 'mates' in our tiny population, and the structures of state hegemony protect this situation.

The church is at the epicentre of Qld politics, still, and needs to be driven out, like the demons from a madman in the 'good old days'.

Fitzgerald was an arrogant fool, so blinded by his vision of his own splendor, that he could never see past the end of his nose.

The CJC is a construct of Labor, & has never been anything but an arm of the labor machine.

Justice is certainly something that is never going to be allowed to penetrate its walls.

Hasbeen.

Crime and corruption are not the exclusive domain of ALP dimwits.

Are you trying to say that Fitzgerald 'invented' the crimes he exposed, that many of us were well aware of at the time, albeit not in detail, but the media refused to expose, for years and years, until Dickie and Masters?

TBC you waste your time, at least in head butting me you are heard.
Hasbeen has no intention of ever letting the light of truth get in the way of his biases.

Too true Belly.

Poor Hasbeen is still smarting because the Fitzgerald Enquiry was set up by Bill Gunn, a totally non-corrupt National pollie.

Then Mike Ahern as Nat' leader carried on with it and oversaw the end of the Joh era as a result.

Good on both of them too.

But Fitzgerald has recently warned of ALP backsliding.

The jailing of one ALP MLA is seen as an 'isolated' incident, but it sure looks like there were a lot of eager business people ready to help him be bribed, so, right or wrong, the suspicious mind (not me though) tends to wonder if it isn't far more widespread with such a long serving government.

I doubt this is an 'ALP' issue any more than it would have been a particularly 'National' one under Joh, simply a total lack of ethics in the public sphere of government coupled with a poorly informed and disengaged public who neither understand 'politics' nor get treated as people with sufficient intelligence to handle complex issues.

Many are clearly not, but probably more are.

Belly, there has never been anyone I have ever conversed with more biased than you.

You'll even vote for them when you know they are crooks.

Blue in the day there was no one more anti Joh than me.

It was one of the important lessons of my life when I found that every premier since him has been worse, less competent, & more easily led. It taught me to be careful what you wish for. Chucking someone out because you don't like them is thwart with the danger of replacing them with someone much worse.

Hell I was even pro Whitlam in the early days, before it became obvious he should have been certified, not elected.

If ever you find someone in your party with half a brain, let me know. First you will have to get out of the girls club. The bunch of ladies you have stuck in front of us have knocked the women's movement back a decade or two, they have been so bad. Labor, & women in general, will spend a number of years recovering from the misguided attempt to harness the female vote to your cause. [Sorry, party without a cause]. You haven't yet come up with one that could run a corner shop, & that will cost you for years.

Hasbeen ,mate, you are kidding me? you are aware I voted against my party in NSW?
Look at your posts, no one with understanding can lay that claim.
The one inferring ANY Queensland government in its history EVER GOT CLOSE to being as bent as Joe's.
Mate it is not my intention to hurt you, but in my view your self confidence is badly miss placed as is your under standing.
My post history is all the evidence I need to make the claim you show lack of understanding in saying some thing so silly.