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Pakistan & the Taliban - Enough is enough

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I didn't know that Iran had any nuclear weapons Aaron1975. But I do know from the revelations of Israeli whistle blower and hero Mordechai Vanunu, that the Israeli's do indeed possess nuclear weapons technology.

It may have been thought necessary by the people who supplied Israel with such offensive capability, to do so when they did ?.

It does however up the ante in the Middle East, in relation for the potential for catastrophe.

The supply of oil and the supply of pain killers or other valuables/essentials have always been linked; and are, the product of war and human nature. Only those countries that can guarantee themselves supply of all the essentials, can consider themselves victorious in war, and truly free, when it is all said and done.

Donald Trump said so much about ancient concepts of war, in a recent extremist rant as part of the preamble, in his bid for the White House.

The Middle East focus is the reason why we have haven't already swung our attention to the Sth America's, where the worlds remaining oil reserves are located, and the suppliers of Nth America's favourite recreational analgesic, cocaine, exist. The Russians and Europe are now bearing the brunt of the Heroin problem, leaving the Yanks less interested in a solution in Pakistan/Afghanistan to the poppy crops.

The next battle front will be in Sth America, if the Middle East implodes into irredeemable conflict. Truly worrying times Aaron1975
Posted by thinker 2, Monday, 18 April 2011 8:52:24 PM
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Given Mossad's incredible reputation for thoroughness and it's taste for "false-flag" operations, I'm always amused when people cite a semi-literate, known-pacifist, with no relevant technical skills, supposed disclosure of the, worst kept secret weapons factory in the world. I don't believe I've ever seen any record of an Israeli Nuclear Test however... Israel had unlimited access to Uranium ore as a result of its Military Support (Import/Export) to South Africa

As for Iran, they are working on Nuclear Weapons, India already has them (and has tested them quite openly) as has Pakistan. Unfortunately for Pakistan, they have very little prospect of competing with their larger, extremely belligerent neighbour when it comes to building anything (for starters, they don't have the access, even the Russian's aren't dumb enough for that). The real Nuclear Powers remain the EU, USA, Russia, China & India, of course, the various alliances make more troubling reading.
Posted by Aaron 1975, Monday, 18 April 2011 9:29:41 PM
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a-ron/quote""I don't believe I've ever seen any record of an Israeli Nuclear Test""

if you allready 'know they work'
there is no need to test

is mossad so inept as to steal the data
then build duds

recall ge did most of usa building/testing
they also could be said to be inocent..
despite holding all the capacity and test data

next yiou will have 'proof' theygot no nukes
that star wars defence system wasnt to defend the blue star
and more correctly could be called the blue star war's offence system

""As for Iran,they are working on Nuclear Weapons,""
thats crapppp and you nose it
they infoirm the oversight agency
accept the mossad agents[inspecters]
accept the styxnet sabotage..

unlike israel that cant even accept
those who own their land..have a right to use their own land
have a right to acces thweir land without zionist oppresion...

germany never bombed the gulags..
the same cant be said for those stealing semite lands..
while wearing the cloak of poor me...what about them

lets not forget the copoes
who picked out those too sick to work
were jews..[and only one third of those gassed were jew]

6 million
the blue star has 6 sides
6 intersecting points
6 small triangles

whats with this magic number 6
pretending to be a nine
poor blooming you

"The real Nuclear Powers remain the EU"
so as germany controls the eu
the natzies now got nukes

your too clever by half aaaaaron,
a true child of zion...

[go on
cry on..
poor you]

fool the goyum once shame on me
fool the clay goyan hundreds of times shame on you

those who dont recall the past
will endlessly repeat it

[cast lead 2]
http://uruknet.com/?p=m76915&hd=&size=1&l=e
[flotilla 2]
http://uruknet.com/?p=m76911&hd=&size=1&l=e
http://www.redress.cc/americas/ldavidson20110418
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/people-power-are-certifiably-insane
[stop trying to rewrite it]
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 7:23:11 AM
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Still everyone else has been caught ONLY through testing, makes you wonder, I mean Cui Bono? Surely Israel wouldn't have benefited from a false leak that Dimona was more advanced than it was, or would it?

By that yardstick, I cannot imagine any workers from the Indian, Pakistani or Iranian Nuclear sites being "Allowed" to leave the respective countries, let alone go backpacking around the world... Of course, even if he was set up, he still released information that he had been told was Top Secret, thus the jail sentence.

As to India, they have conducted several tests (http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/india/nuke/) while Pakistan is demanding that they not be admitted to the exclusive club of Nuclear Powers, with control over who has access to what (http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/01/25/idINIndia-54400920110125), I suspect that deal will be a quid-pro-quo for the American's continued support for Pakistan over Baluchistan.

When dealing with Nuclear weapons, especially in South/South-Western Asia, India is the regional Superpower. Which has squared off several times with not only Pakistan but also China in recent times (it has Mig-29's, at least one Aircraft Carrier and an awful lot of shiny new equipment).

The dynamic is quite interesting, India has refused to fall into either camp completely, it has some Russian, some American, some British arms and material, which all up gives it a considerable advantage over anyone else in the region (except their neighbour to the north).

Israel is a mid-weight bit player on the far-western edge of Asia. It has successfully armed itself so that it is not in serious danger (defensively) from anyone. The only "supplier" country that has armed itself enough for the coming years is Iran and that won't be sufficient for long. Neither are involved in this conflict.
Posted by Aaron 1975, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:53:28 AM
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neuther may be provoking this
or both might..but the only surity
is israel is still oppressing its semite/arabs..

thus any who monger for war
[without fixing their own house first]
is regarded as destracting from the main game
*[the genocide of palistinians and stealing their lands]

yes its easier to say
lets drop depleted uranium on the pakies
just like we dropped it on other arabs..and the latest libiya

[who alone with israel*
have in recent times..dropped micro bomlets
[cluster bombs..;..made in usa]..on civilians..

along with depeted tipped bombs
[it seems its a deliberate attempt
to mutate their kids into the monsters..zionists want/need them to be]

in short there is a certain warmongering
supirority in those of zion..constantly calling for more war

the crimes in the name of israel need be fixed first
lerts see if we can actually end a long/long war
..before beating up the next one

fear and lies is no way to serve god
who gives arabs their life as much as zionist israelie jews

to kill anyone demeans god
who alone sustains all living
jews have had a fair run at ruling it over the goy
its time they returned to 'their' homeland
and made peace in their own backyard..

before beating up for more pieces
in the yards of others

make peace
not pieces
time to end war..
and stop mongering for more war

i dont know you from adam
but i do know of the works
of those claiming to be the only people of god

your lust of making war
reveals the delusion

you think to serve god...[life]
..but realise your WAR's..are serving satan..[death]

*peace not pieces*
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 1:05:06 PM
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