I'm glad you two are on the case, just in case any business was gullible enough not to do their own research. Just one point I was wondering about, why don't I see any big denunciations on the attendance figures of the cited example of the Albert Park Grand Prix organisers? It was noted in paper, sure, but what sort of response were you planning on getting reporting your revelations on a blog site like this? Don't feign surprise proverbs, everyone knows why you want to do this sort of thing and it hasn't anything to do with "corporate accountability" of sponsorship deals. Anyone who wants to know where ol' prov is coming from just have a look at http://www.saltshakers.org.au/pdf/085056_LETTERS_TO_THE_EDITOR.pdf

Except that guy thought that more than double your calculations were credible.

proverbs: "As for my motive for creating this post? I think it boils down to my sense of injustice."

Having just read the Salt Shakers article that Bugsy directed us to, I think that our good Christian above is being just a tad disingenuous here. It always amuses me when religious nutters resort to telling porkies in order to promote their medieval moralities - as they so often do in this forum.

Isn't there something in the Bible abour bearing false witness?

Bugsy, CJ, I doubt if anyone was ever unaware, let alone surprised, about proverb's motives.

But it is good to point out occasionally how they try just that little bit too hard, and end up with egg on their faces.

I love the way they always protest their innocence of any such motives when challenged...

>>Pericles suggested that it upsets me to see people have fun. AJD accused me of starting this discussion because of my hatred of gays. How on earth do you guys come to such outlandish conclusions. Since when is telling the truth Homophobic?<<

And...

>>There is nothing in the original post that makes a judgement about the morality of Homosexuality. Other people on this forum have decided to make it a gay vs Christians issue<<

Yeah, right.

This reminds me of the Robert Mapplethorpe exhibition in the United States. People lined up around the block to pay money to look at the photographs. Christian fundamentalists were disgusted and tried to have it closed down. One protester was quoted in a newspaper at the time saying-

This is just disgusting. It shouldn't be allowed. It makes me sick. Every time I see it I feel more disgusted.

So why'd she keep going then?

Runner: Just because you don't agree with their lifestyle doesn't mean it is perverted. Why does this always turn into us vs them mentality. I am a heterosexual with a number of friends (who oh! my god! are gay)and they deserve the same respect as you and I do. They also deserve the same rights. They have all been in serious relationships for over 10 years (alot longer than the majority of my heterosexual friends) so what gives you the right to say they should have their partnerships recognised. It is none of your business. And to the person who said they wouldn't adopt a child to a gay couple, I would do it in an instant, particularly when you read the continuing stories of marriage breakdowns, domestic violence and child abuse in the straight community. At least a child would have a life full of love and would never want for anything.

As for the Mardi Gras over exaggerates the figures. Who cares? All event of any kind over exaggerate figures.

JanT

Just because you do agree with a lifestyle (that I and others know is unhealthy and destructive) does not give you a right to shove it down our throats and influence our children with such destructive behaviour. Some people believe paedophille is not a deviant lifestyle. Just because they believe that does not mean it is not. You may know a couple of people who have lived deviant lifestyles together for 10 years but no doubt they are in a great minority.