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Posted by Belly, Monday, 21 March 2011 2:51:14 PM
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Aaron,
Your optomism is commendable but i won't hold my breath waiting for the rebels to win in Libya or, even if they do, that the people will be better governed. This applies to the other ME countries as well. I think the West should not be involved in any way and let them sort out their own mess. The Arab countries are the ones that should assist the others. Recall Iraq! The West toppled Heusain and the country had a huge celebration. This lasted about 2 weeks and then the Sunnis and the Shi'ites started blowing each other up, trying to be top dog and they are still at it. They see minor religous differences as more important than democrocy. They are too stupid to take the opportunities given. Would not surprise me if Egypt and Syria go the same way. I hope I am wrong but time will tell. We should not interfere. Posted by Banjo, Monday, 21 March 2011 4:32:32 PM
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Belly, if you are not from the despised loony-left, then the comment was never meant to refer to you.
Banjo, Given the nature of this particular conflict, I'd suspect that if the EU can commit to protecting the Benghazi/Tobruk Harbours and the Egyptian Border Enclaves, that it is only a waiting game. Every member of NATO will be looking to offload military hardware onto the rebels (plus training), in return for payment post-revolution. Several General Officer's and entire units (albeit lightly armoured ones) have gone over to the Rebel's in the East. With an arms embargo on Qaddaffi's regime (UN Sanctioned) and de facto recognition of the Rebel's as the rightful government, continued airstrikes will degrade the defensive capacity of the loyalists to below that which can be overcome by the offensive capacity of the newly rearmed/re-equipped Rebels. As for Egypt, the Moslem Brotherhood, etc. are the major losers from the latest events. The Pro-US (or US-dependent) General's are in charge, they look like retaining control too (if they lose it, they'll lose EVERYTHING, like the Shah's General's lost out in Iran). I'm very interested to see what happens with Syria, already Al-Assad has moved to remove the "individual's" involved in putting down the protest(s) so violently... Whom is fooled is anyone's guess. I do know that Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey, Kurdistan & NATO as a whole, would benefit from the domestic overthrow of this despotic regime. It would also seriously weaken the position of Iran. Yes, the internet has played a major part, but without facts & the reporting thereof by a trusted source, the internet is worthless. Posted by Aaron 1975, Monday, 21 March 2011 6:31:52 PM
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Aaron in fact no one in this thread, so far is from the loony left.
I am guilty of calling them that myself, but Labor and left of center proudly. I am no saint, and just as guilty as anyone, more than some. But generalizations are not facts, some times unneeded and not worth the effort. You may well be surprised to know ,well you should not be, but Labor and Rudd tried to lead the world on this issue. Afraid, no use hiding it, I am unhappy with a section of multi culturism. But hold real hope these middle eastern uprisings may be the start of a better life for the people. Gaddafi's? we for too long let him use us the west,we do use such filth too but thanks to the net and your stated news broadcaster,I shared you first impressions,we are seeing rebirth of hope. Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 6:06:22 AM
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Just a thought.
I doubt I ever targeted a poster for his/her political links. But I do, often for views and thoughts expressed. We ALL should understand middle Australia is populated by voters from both sides. Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 6:09:51 AM
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Gaddafi Jewish Relative Feels Ashamed
of Her Cousin for His Criminal Acts Toward His ?..serfs?..victims..?..people? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKBNNl12HkI Connection found: Suddenly Israel sending in 50,000 mercenaries to support Gaddafi makes sense... 1935 documentary: "Dealer's in Death - The Story of the War Racket" - 37 min http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8562493278519566041# The Global Techno Revolution By: ActivistPost Armed With The Truth: United We Stand For Self Government Over NWO Tyranny This is a clear call for non-violent rebellion against a corrupt elite who have laid claim on our productivity, our ideas, and even on the very structure of who we are as human beings. They are clearly attempting to set up a techno-dictatorship, so we must do our part to issue a boomerang effect upon those who would enslave us. Please view this excellent video and distribute. http://www.activistpost.com/2011/03/global-techno-revolution-activist-post.html ISRAEL …. OIL AND VINEGAR http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2011/03/22/israel-oil-and-vinegar/ According to Dr Vinegar, Israel has the second-biggest oil shale deposits in the world, outside the US: “We estimate that there is the equivalent of 250 billion barrels of oil here. To put that in context, there are proven reserves of 260 billion barrels of oil in Saudi Arabia.” Oil shale reserves can turn Israel into major world producer Webmaster's Commentary: Oil shale cannot be harvested without "fracking", which usually contaminates ground water supplies. I am certain that Israel is already casting covetous eyes on the Libyan fresh water resources Posted by one under god, Thursday, 24 March 2011 7:20:30 AM
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I am not limp wristed and not against this UN action.
Runner is from the far right Christian right or I am no judge.
The INTERNET is playing a big roll in the middle easts changes.
I earnestly hope the opposition wins here.
Runner infers, no states Gillard and Obama have invaded? can you think that runner?
The under informed can be more dangerous than some weapons.
Like a great deal of issues, the only exercise some get is jumping to conclusions.
How? can any Christian not care about the fate of hundreds of thousands in this country.
No invasion will be needed and the world will be a better place for the action taking place.