Australia in my view should have long ago been forceabley removed from the *Asylum Seeker Convention* for refusing to honour it in more ways than one. The fact that they have not goes to the general dysfunctional nature of the U.nited N.ations. i.m.o.

I also believe their is a cyncial game of vote harvesting being played in all of this, as it seems quite plain that the mere mention of the "BlackFellas" or "Refos" getting a leg up whilst others do not is sufficient cause for these same people to immediately flock politically to anyone who says that they will oppose it, like the national liberal party.

Historically, whilst the people of Australia pre WWII voted to accept the Jewish Asylum Seekers fleeing the Nazis, the tin pot law of the transplanted genocidal pom denied them, and, yes, you guessed it, turned back the boats.

This true story, which is not taught widely to the current people of Australia, is contained in a book called "The UnPromised Land" and details the well developed plan to settle the Holocaust Asylum Seekers in W.A.'s north west. One wonders whether this place would otherwise have become the financial hub of the southern hemisphere?

Of course, as we know, the Nazis barbecued in excess of 6,000,000 of them and the rest is history.

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Lawful Immigration is not to be confused with the Seeking of Asylum. Asylum Seekers may come however they please. One does not reasonably expect that an individual Seeking Asylum from the Holocaust will wander to the local down town Berlin Australian Embassy to request a Visa.

No, more likely, you'd strip, shave, roll in the mud, camouflage yourself, and sneak out as best you could, or some other means of escape.

Internationally, this is accepted, but then, as good little Australian mushrooms you don't generally get to see too much of what the views of the Internationals are now do you?

Notwithstanding the fact that there have and likely always will be people who are, for a variety of reasons, want to abuse the system in the hope of a better life in "The Land of Milk and Honey," there are also those who have fled to our shores in fear of their lives.

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And how may I ask, are they treated? Do you give them all the benefit of the doubt and welcome them as Honoured guests? No. .. rather, they are aggressively arrested and detained indefinitely without charge or trial, a travesty of justice in and of itself, often times for extended periods.

To be deprived of ones liberty is most often an extremely unpleasant experience, and I note the genocidal pom and its various red blue/left right enclaves has a long history of inflicting wholesale slaughter, enslavement, breeding programs, child stealing and the incarceration of the impoverished, the uneducated and the mentally unwell and untreated individuals.

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So wake up and smell the coffee people, indeed their are people in the world who suffer you not to transgress upon their Inalienable Human Rights and to in reality treat them as members of an underclass.

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Whilst I hope that no one was injured, my sympathies are with those detained, and I look forward to watching more action until the ugly australian guvment and its equally ugly supporters learn their place.

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The mistake some of you make is in the delusional thinking that leads you to believe that you can just abuse these people under the guise of legitimate legal process and not be held to account.

If we are required to take them once they are on our shores, then surely we're entitled to prosecute them under our laws? I'd imagine that vandalising and burning Commonwealth property would carry a heavy prison term: if I went down to the local barracks and firebombed the place, I'd say I would spend the next few years behind bars. If I set fire to the university (even in some sort of protest), surely I'd wind up in prison?

If we have to accept them, then we have to. Let's take them, remove them from their friends and families and lock them up in maximum security prisons around the country with their fellow criminals. Then, as they are not citizens or permanent residents, let's deport them once their prison time is up.

Surely one of the first things we must consider when we assess refugees is their chances of successfully fitting into our society? I don't mean assimilation or simply becoming 'one of us', or even making a real contribution. I mean being able to cope with the culture they are entering into. I suspect that people who deal with adversity by rioting, threatening and burning buildings may struggle to get along in our society. I'm sure there are many other 'safe' countries into which they would fit rather nicely.

DreamOn:

Given that your knowledge of international treatment of asylum seekers exceeds that held by us mere mushroom-sheltering Australians, pray tell:

What do the South Africans do with the flood of Zimbabweans who seek refuge in their land?

What do the Americans do with the flood of Mexicans, Central Americans, Cubans and others who seek refuge in their land?

What do the French do with the many asylum seekers with which they are faced?

I think you know as well as I do that very few countries (if any at all) welcome asylum seekers as 'honoured guests'. In many respects, the fact that we don't turn our asylum seekers away immediately and tell them to come through the proper channels suggests that we are more tolerant than many.

Your characterisation of Australia as uniquely brutal (no, you don't say it explicitly but it's right there between the lines) is either ill-informed or deliberately misleading.

DreamOn says:

“ Australia in my view should have long ago been forceabley removed from the *Asylum Seeker Convention* for refusing to honour it in more ways than one “

Or put more simply: “OZ is a pariah nation”

It pre-supposes that there is convention council of holies whose behaviour exemplifies all that is good and proper.

In reality it would be hard to find any signatory nation who both i) follows the convention to the enth degree, and ii) is happy with its membership (signatory nation that is, as opposed to special interest/advocacy groups!)

Again, in simple terms: practically all signatory nations are thoroughly p*ssed-off by the way in which the convention is being exploited by racketeers and bullyboys .

And –to correct DreamOn on another point --the antics of the “asylum seekers” in the Christmas Island riots ( both the latest, and previous examples) was less like “ Jewish Asylum Seekers fleeing the Nazis” and more like brown shirts behaving badly on “the night of broken glass” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uine5MhOc0I

Belly>>Rechtub, uncalled for bloke, go back and read you comment here.

I stand behind what I said. This government is useless! Their 'open cheque book' approach to running this nation is a disgrace.

We are wasting millions on flying tradies interstate to fix government 'stuff ups' that should not have occurred in the first place. Not one offer from either JG or KR to take a 'pay cut' in order to soften the blow. As usual, they are not accountable like us in the real world.

Now when one points out the bias within the government, you lot shoot me down as being insensitive. (Boat people funeral costs)

No doubt you are aware that our own people (tax payers) that were effected in Japan can't get a charter flight.

The only comforting thought for me is that this PM is doing a great job of 'self destructing', even when the opposition is not strong.

I can wait!