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Pauline Hanson's makes a bid

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Another gem by 'Samuel'
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Storage of Firearms
The Greens NSW support:
29. A prohibition on guns being stored:

29.1 In rural homes without good reason; and (un-Q)

This is airy-fairy; who decides what a good reason is?
The owner, the Government or the police.

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29.2 In urban homes, except where a licence is granted for
antique gun collectors (defined as manufactured prior to
1920) and the guns have been disabled; (un-q)

Not even the chance for a good reason here, it's just a blanket 'No'
What if the owner wants to re-furbish his firearm, polish the metal work and re-finish the stock, maybe he's artistic and would like to carve the wood.

Now the poor old collectors. The Greens don't spell out what they mean by disabled but it couldn't mean just the removal of a part that could be easily replaced because that would mean that the firearm could easily be used, so it must mean something permanent that is not easily reversed; perhaps welding? Thus destroying the value of the piece.

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30. All ammunition must be stored in locked containers separate from any firearms;(us-q).

Have never understood this one, even though it is the law, so there would seem to be no reason to have it as a proposal. The idea is apparently to make whoever breaks into the gun cabinet spend an extra 30 seconds or even a minute breaking into the ammunition box.
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Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 2:45:43 PM
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31. Guns in urban areas are to be stored at gun clubs under lock and key
with firing mechanisms kept at designated police stations;(un-q)

Do the police then have to be ready at all times to release the mechanisms to the owner?
Will a specific policeman be given this job?
If so can he delegate his responsibilities?
If he is not at work can he be called in to release the firing mechanism and will he be paid overtime?
If a shooter wishes to leave Sydney at 4:00 AM can he withdraw
his mechanism the day before?
What provisions will be made at designated police stations for the storage of mechanisms and will any damage be paid for by the State.
Bearing in mind that some single firing mechanisms are worth more than
other peoples half a dozen guns.
The firing mechanisms from a $50,000 gun would be expensive to replace.
Then there are the guns from which the firing mechanism can't be removed or replaced without the aid of a gunsmith. (who will pay the gunsmith?)
Will the 'designated police station' be one that is close to the owners home? Or can officials make life difficult?

If this is well thought out policy then heaven help Australia if these people ever get to govern. We saw the havock that a few of them in local government could cause when Victoria had those devastating bush fires.(unquote)
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 2:47:45 PM
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Some years ago a man was able to walk into the ANZAC Riffle range at Malabar, be given a gun and ammunition, walk back to his car and blow his brains out.
An uncle of mine who had a property in the central west of NSW. For a time uncle allowed recreational shooters on to his property in their four wheel drives to 'shoot' rabbits. What did they do, shot his livestock (sheep), drove through fences, muddied dams and creeks, left gates open, shot insulators off poles and left their rubbish behind. Uncle soon stopped shooter from entering his property. I can tell you Uncle was no raving Greenie Country Party through and through.
Having said that there may be, in my mind, a case for a very small number of Australians who should be licenced to hold a firearm as they have a genuine reason to do so. They would need to be trained and supervised in relation to this. Recreational use would not be a genuine reason.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 4:23:15 PM
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Some years ago a man walked off the platform at Central Railway and killed himself under a train.

Some years ago a property owner that I know let some shooters onto his property and in addition to shooting two wild dogs and 18 foxes and more rabbits than you could poke a stick at, they found that one of his cows had fallen into a 'Diggers Hole' so they pulled her out, then they repaired the hole in the fence where she'd gotten out into the dangeraus area.
The next time that they were up there they didn't get to do any hunting as they were helping the locals to fight bushfires.

I know Paul because I was in the party. Still go back there occasionally to see the friends that I made; not one of them votes Green.

You AD or BC, Paul?
Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 4:45:05 PM
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Dear Is Mise,

Paul's moved on. You should try it.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 6:59:40 PM
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Registered in NSW we have a number of micro sized one issue political parties such as No Parking Meters Party, Outdoor Recreation Party, The Fishing Party and of course the Shooters and Fishers Party. These political parties with their one issue have an axe to grind and can be dismissed as nothing more than a nuisance that will never attract more than 1% to 2% of the vote. They have no substance, no broad based policies, just their one little issue.
However there is a danger that a micro party like the Shooters and Fishers will through the preference system in the Upper House manage to get elected. To gain the the support of these troglodytes the new O'Farrell Liberal government is likely to throw them a bone in the form of giving in to their extreme demands, such as allowing there rednecked supporters to invade our national parks with AK47's and letting them play Rambo with every thing that moves. Be careful with your vote, don't let these people gain unwarranted power.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 6:54:05 AM
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