I have formulated a simple solution to help to "ease"
the situation in the Middle East, war-wracked
Afghanistan and the local situation here at home!

Sift through ALL of the Asylum Seekers and Boat-people who
have taken refuge here over recent years and select those
men of fighting age, give them a basic Recruit Training course
the same as we do with our young men, then send them back
over to their own country to fight against the perceived
oppressors, the ones that they claim to have escaped from
to come here.

If these people are NOT prepared to fight for their own
country, then they are NEVER going to fight to protect ours,
should the occasion ever arise!

This exercise will achieve two things, 1) determine how genuine these
people are as legitimate refugees and, 2) hopefully reduce
the number of our young Diggers who are being murdered in this
false war of US appeasement!

Now all you bleeding hearts and do-gooders can jump on the
band-wagon and start tearing me to pieces for offering a
realistic solution, as no doubt you will have a better
suggestion to the problem?

I'm not prepared to fight for our country. I'm a lover not a fighter.

So anyone who isn't at least in the army reserve now should be deported?

Give the women and children guns?
We all hurt at the deaths of our troops most of us will cry at seeing the funerals.
We well,some hold strong views about who should migrate here
But afraid no, will not continue.

I disagree with this notion per-se, but for a different reason.
What if someone were fleeing Afghanistan because they were a secular person, and was therefore incompatible with either fighting side? After all, he definitely wouldn't be in the mood for fighting on behalf of the corrupt ultra-religious Karzai regime or the corrupt, ultra-religious Taliban?

He'd already be good in my book.

Instead, we should decided if the person fleeing is either
1- moderate/secular, clearly more at home in a Western country
2- a raving wahabi nutter, or crook, more at home under a theocratic government or a warlord mafia boss' protection.

If 1, we quickly wave him though into the community and let him settle in while we finalize his paperwork, exactly as.

If 2, THEN we tell him his 'side' back home needs him, and send him on his way, free to pick whichever force most represents his views and take up arms for them.

But I agree that we should pull out of that country either way.

There are three main Muslim sects Shia, Sunni, and the lesser Wahabi. In many Middle Eastern regimes you have one sect in political power (not always the majority) and the other sects unhappy about the situation. A sort of Northern Ireland flavour to it, where the gene pool is the same, the religion is the same but the sect is not. So there is a constant undercurrent of hostility or avarice towards their brothers.

Why I mention this is to demonstrate the "cultural nature" of the immigrant we receive from the Middle East. They do not play or mix well with others, even if the others are like themselves but slightly tweaked, and sadly like Israel who collectively learnt nothing from the Nazi experience are quite prepared to be the brute if the shoe is on the other foot.

Semitic peoples are pains collectively, but great individually, it’s a cultural thing and I don’t want it growing in my community….oops too late.

Re sending them back to defend their land...lol....they aint leaving this high paying gig that is our Australia. They will get the UN onto us, as we have signed every piece of drivel that has come from that money manipulated organization.

It's so good to read some posts like this. Even though I don't have much knowledge about the topic but I see the good flow.

Sonofgloin <"Semitic peoples are pains collectively, but great individually, it’s a cultural thing and I don’t want it growing in my community….oops too late."

Gee, what would happen if we were Indigenous Australians having a chat and we changed one word in that comment?
"European peoples are pains collectively, but great individually, it's a cultural thing and I don't want it growing in my community...oops too late."
Yeah, that's better.

What would be the point in sending asylum seekers back to defend a country they just fled from? They are hardly likely to be of any benefit to our fighting forces already there, and indeed may cause more trouble than they are worth, if they are forced to do something they don't want to do.

suzeonline:>> Gee, what would happen if we were Indigenous Australians having a chat and we changed one word in that comment?
"European peoples are pains collectively, but great individually, it's a cultural thing and I don't want it growing in my community...oops too late."
Yeah, that's better<<

Suzeonline, a valid point, as "putting the shoe on the other foot" generally is. The difference is that the Aboriginal peoples of this land did not have a choice or the power to alter the situation, we in the 20th century did and I stand by my personal observation that Semitic peoples are pains in the posterior who carry cultural baggage that has changed little from the middle ages. That is the problem, not place of origin per se.

Sonofgloin. Your generalization of everyone in a whole group of peoples as being <"...pains in the posterior who carry cultural baggage that has changed little from the middle ages." is a disgrace, and is racism at the extreme end of the scale.

I only hope you are simply being a troll on this thread.

No trolling, it is my OLO.

Well,well, well!.....just as I predicted, a very
lack-lustre response to what I considered to be
a very sensible suggestion?

It is quite obvious now from the response to this
Thread that the cross-sectional representation are
totally opposed to my suggestion, and apparently
are quite happy to welcome the increasing hordes of
"Asylum Seekers/Boat People" who have contributed
not one iota toward out Taxation system and who take
advantage of this caring community and dine at the
the table of the long-suffering taxpayer,(a rapidly
diminishing entity) thus further stretching the public
purse for the sake of political and economic expediency.

I might also add that any man of conscriptable age who
indicates that he will NOT fight for his own country
should NOT be allowed residency here!..( and before
you do-gooders unsheath your knives)..I served my
country for 21 years, but I could still call myself a
limited pacifist!

This problem that we are ALL facing now, will bring
radical changes to our cultural, religious and economic
futures. We are sadly following down the path that
the "United Kingdom?" has taken, but like the spoilt
child, does not learn from his mistakes, instead we
continue to wallow in our self-indulgent trough of
feigned colonial security, forever looking at the US
as saviour in the event of any future threat!

Yes Crackcup, we have bequeathed our grand kids a whole lot of pain, with our "superior" approach to humanity. We will find to our cost that much of the rest of humanity has some distance to go, before achieving the lofty ideals of some of our policy formers.

I do hope that there are some of us old service men are still around to help when the Cronulla riots become something a bit more serious. Most of the younger population only seem to be able to fight when drunk.

Most of the younger population only seem to be able to fight when drunk.
Hasbeen,
Yep & most have a leaving certificate & even a BA through no fault of their own. Now they're so educated that they couldn't change a tyre or load a pebble gun. If someone says boo to them they need counselling by people with no experience themselves. Yeah mate, a great society indeed.
One of my solutions to the refugee producing countries would be to let no-one in & no-one out. Same goes for food & materials. Less than one year & they'll be like puppies instead of radical morons.