LOL Deep Blue I reckon you follow Belly around LOL in hysterics

People may laugh at this, but I found it exceptionally interesting. There is an emerging field of what regulates metabolism, including the role of 'gasotransmitters', which include hydrogen sulfide (H2S) and nitric oxide (NO). Hydrogen sulfide is produced by gut bacteria, among other gases and is often responsible for the smell of bad breath as well as flatus. (Nitric oxide is responsible for erections, among other things and is the effect produced by the drug Viagra)

Now, what if some of these 'nasty' gut bacteria were producing chemicals that mimic 'native' regulatory metabolic signals? It could produce a situation where someone would be more susceptible to weight gain.

It is fairly well established that many native hunter gatherer type peoples have 'thrifty' type metabolic genetic backgrounds, which predisposes them to diabetes and obesity when fed a 'Western' type modern high-energy diet. But that doesn't necessarily relate to this.

Anyway, without going off on many other tangents I can also see how this might relate to Parkinsons, but that would be a subject for another time.

Very interesting Steven, many thanks.

weareunique,...don't be cheeky:)

BLUE

WAU I had not noticed.
Hope it is not too hot to sleep there.
Steve gave us an interesting thread,not one we should turn in to satire but it is begging to be.
I am not huge but use a system that works.
I diet hard but eat well fruit and veg.
One day, just maybe,we will see adds as hard on weight as the smoking ones.
It costs us as much in hospital bills and deaths, so why not?
I use this, it works, look at every very over weight person, remind your self,it should never be you.
Self indulgence is the very reverse obese people live shorter more lessor lives lives.
Know believe me know as an over weight person I include me in this, we fatys reward our selves by lieing, saying rubbish things like I deserve this.
Thanks Steve,

Hi Steven..where've you been ?

Lexi.. I checked your link... interesting about human behavior.

History of Cannibalism

In the 1930’s a study was done on the Bantu and Bemba tribes of Rhodesia showing that during the lowest food yielding time of year the people became less willing to share their food not only with others in the tribe but there closest relatives as well.

Does ANYone see relevance to 'multiculturalism' ? :)

Don't want to hijack the thread.. just chew on that thought.

I gain weight during winter from too much (enjoyable) bread n cream cheese consumption+lack of exercise.. "too dark..too cold.. too comfy in the recliner"

Spring and summer.. it takes 3 heavy burn out circuit workouts a week to keep it off. I usually stop the bread during 'get the winter weight off' periods.

Hi Belly, AGIR

There is some evidence that “weight cycling” – losing then putting on weight – is actually worse than being slightly overweight.

See this link from the American NIH.

http://www.win.niddk.nih.gov/publications/PDFs/wtcycling2bw.pdf

Bugsy,

This is fascinating isn’t it? I’m especially intrigued by the possible link between gut bacteria and diseases like MS and Parkinson’s. That seems to have come right out of left field.

Belly wrote:

>>One day, just maybe,we will see adds as hard on weight as the smoking ones.>>

It seems to me the missing ingredient from all health care programs is exercise. My own completely unscientific observations during my time in the insurance industry leads me to conclude that a physically active person who is a little overweight (BMI 25 – 30) will live longer and have fewer illnesses than a normal weight (BMI 18-25) couch potato.

Maybe we ought to tax TV watching. See:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11427103