That is simply hilarious, individual.

>>Pericles, I did not think it possible for someone to get things as wrong as you do here. Please only reply when you have something positive & constructive to contribute.<<

Since your very first post - on a thread about rebuilding Queensland, by the way - you have been wittering on about how great it would be for the youth of this country to undergo National Service - sorry, national service.

And suddenly, it is me who is "getting things wrong".

>>...the only stereotypes in this debate are those trying to evade responsibility<<

Classic.

Pericles sorry I got your name wrong.
Now for individual.
This thread highlights to me why we clash, it is true I have been putting my expectations to high.
You almost shout at me in this thread, you do not truly understand.
The subject.
The facts surrounding unemployment, training, past evidence clearly politics.
It would be easy to glance at your post and fly past without reading, others are treated that way.
But you have the air of self assurance that imposes your views as law, insulting those you fail to agree with.
You are entitled to your views,of me and Pericles but know it is you words that give evidence you are not here to debate,question,explore, but to inform.
My expectations from you are now not much at all.
However a look early mornings at press storys may be of help, this weeks release of unemployment numbers and trends would unlock that closed door you call a mind.

Pericles,
yoy're just arguing for the sake of it. You obviously have no compassion nor the mentality, nor interest in this country to rebuild. What a waste.
Belly,
As for your indignation I can only say if you can dish it out you should be able to handle it. So, I'm insulting those who don't agree with me ? Well if that's the only way you can look at things then there's nothing I can do. You think it insulting to point out unpleasant facts but you apparently don't find it insulting when members in our society cop misery & discrimination & get ripped off because people like you & Pericles can not get themselves to admit that the mismanegment of the mob you support causes so much of this misery. How about looking at the situation & doing something for others without getting membership payment first. You are a union man so you should be able to explain why someone who needs help can only get it by giving money to the ALP. After all, quite a lot of this help is needed due to the incompetence of those who take money under the pretence of helping in return. let the floods be an eye opener for you. People helping other people for nothing. Now that's compassion. Unlike the compassion shown to me by union thugs when I was so broke because of the Whitlam fiasco that I couldn't afford the union fee. If you don't pay you won't be working here much longer was the thugs' compassionate reply. Mates of yours Belly ?

"National Service"

Will never get up, if you

Just abuse critics

Individual it is quite impossible to hold a discussion with you.
You have closed your mind.
And in doing so self improvement and understanding dies.
Once that takes place old age[ at any age] takes over.
I can debate many conservatives, even learn from them.
You do you know, believe me,have far too much self confidence in your own opinions.
That self confidence is miss placed.
You rave on about under privileged and try feebly to target me as not caring.
Know this, my recent retirement gained me 5 to 7 extra hours a day,I worked that extra out of hours unpaid.
I gave big time in cash to needy I came in contact with too.
I would go hungry to give to you if you needed it, giving is good for us, it makes us worthy.
It is time , for the sake of OLO , to again re make my promise avoid you, no progress can be made in talking to you.
It is my fault, I knew that long ago but kept hoping you could see views other than your own.
Fight that grumpy fixed old man inside you mate, fight hard, life can be great at any age, I fully intend to take my brain to my grave in good nick.

Will never get up, if you
Just abuse critics.
Shintaro,
Iim not abusing critics, I'm merely pointing at facts.

I would go hungry to give to you if you needed it, giving is good for us, it makes us worthy.
Belly,
Then why do you so vehemently support the ALP ?
Sounds like you're the one with a closed mind so as not to have accept what that lot is doing to us. You intend to take your mind to your grave in good nick. Well, I intend to go to my grave with a reasonably intact integrity.
Anyhow this thread is about rebuilding Queensland & not defending the ALP.
Are both Fed & state governments implementing reform re real estate barons selling more residential land in flood prone area & for insurance companies to pay out before declaring themselves bankrupt ? They're already talking about rebuilding. Rebuilding on the same spot to get flooded again next time ? They need to help people to build their houses at least one storey higher & that will make an enormous difference in future. The Government & Councils should in all fairness at least half the property taxes for these areas & the raising of houses would create massive employment. Insurance companies should have to contribute to the cost of raising houses if their present policies excuse them from paying out to people who paid for insurance. They should not be able to worm their way out again. They knew the area was flood prone & they still accepted the money. I'm saying put a lot of that money to prevention rather than cure. Building regulation need to be revised now. No building living floor lower than the '74 flood level. Sounds simplistic ? Yeah ? Pretty simple solution I'd say.