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The Forum > General Discussion > Lets hear it for old Joh.

Lets hear it for old Joh.

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The worst part about dams are they only hold so much. And when the overflow comes it is concentrated.
It would have been even better if the dam was dry before it started raining.
Tony is coming up with a plan to have dams in strategic places for future floods. They will have to be left dry though.
Climate change is amongst us, and can only get worse.
All around the world the affects are being felt.
I wouldn't mention joh at all.
Posted by 579, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 7:38:19 AM
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579,
So well stated.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 8:37:09 AM
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Yes 579, it must be global warming.

Lets face it, this flood is almost as big as those couple in the late 1800s, & we all know how bad the global warming was getting way back then, don't we?

This thread is definitely enough to talk any thinking person out of wanting to associate with the lefties. Their hate & viciousness knows no bounds.

In his day I was no fan of Joh. I wanted to see him gone, & was horrified when he kicked the libs from a football team into a basketball team.

I had not payed much attention to politics before then, too busy. But as soon as Joh had gone, I started to see everything falling apart.

I saw Goss give huge unfunded pay rises to teachers & leave all the rest of education short of cash, then watched everything else go down hill.

I saw a bunch, who are such great judges of character, that they have twice had leaders convicted of child molestation, pursue the old boy to the grave.

If the right can admire the achievements of Clem Jones, what is it in the left mentality that stops them accepting the achievements of those on the right. Why are they so full of hate.

Joh must have been a socialist at heart. He was the one who screwed the coal miners. He made them build their railways, & then give them to Queensland. Yes that's right, Queensland, not him.

How can you stop laughing when you see who sold them back.

Yes, if we still had the old bugger, Queensland would still be rich, & the hospitals would work.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 8:46:16 AM
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Belly:>> A man who should have ended his life in prison.
Who had a police minister who should have been with him.
And a police commissioner who was filling his pockets and a criminal.<<

Belly I agree.
Posted by sonofgloin, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 9:01:36 AM
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Hasbeen:>> Joh must have been a socialist at heart. He was the one who screwed the coal miners. He made them build their railways, & then give them to Queensland. Yes that's right, Queensland, not him.<<

Whatever concessions Joh got from the "money" we paid for one way or the other. Do you not remember the “white shoe” brigade and the fiefdom of Qld.
Posted by sonofgloin, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 9:08:00 AM
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Otokonoko, please, please recant.

"are strongly in favour of the old guy. We have the benefits of his administration with very few of the pitfalls. We live with the impression that he brought Queensland kicking and screaming into the twentieth century. We have him to thank for much of the good stuff we enjoy or take for granted in Queensland."

The Joh era, which I lived through much of, from the day of the Cedar Bay raids by the Qld Navy, to his very welcome end, was a blackspot of moral turpitude, corruption, rampant crime, dishonesty, and civil repression.

Whether Goss, Beattie and Bligh are 'different' is really not the issue Individual. I am happy to acknowledge that longterm governments tend to corrupt all around them, and that is certainly the case with this end of the ALP Goss-Bligh spectrum, and Tony Fitzgerald spoke of this last year in a very forthright manner.

Neither Joh, nor anyone since, has brought Qld in to the 20th century.

Goss made a modest effort, but was filled with neo-liberalism, as was Hawke-Keating, and his only legacy can be seen in the 'efficiency' of our corporatised state government, and the rush to privatise every piece of social capital built up over many years.

The Joh politics was a mix of agrarian socialism with more than a cupful of pure corruption.

The relatively poor educational levels of Qlders, the high rates of illiteracy, 15% plus, was a reflection of the agricultural basis of the state, and the sheer size and decentralised nature of life here.

The Gerrymander was real enough, but was a legacy of the ALP era, fine-tuned for long lasting Country Party (National later) benefit.

Even now we suffer from a banal form of 'Queenslandism' that holds back clear thought and favours 'mates'. There is a very real anti-education and anti-intellectual mood throughout the state. A low grade form of nationalism.

To some extent, all states suffer this, and it is willingly encouraged in the media, and happily adopted by the populations.
Posted by The Blue Cross, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 9:26:44 AM
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