What events will take place in the next twelve months in politics world finances even boat people.
Any ideas?
My thoughts are based on taste smell, any way evidence comes to us I think we live in interesting times these are my thoughts.
Australia is close to the inevitable housing bubble, it will burst maybe this year to come.
my guess is it will.
Not sure the Gillard government can see out its term, my guess is she will not take Labor to another election unless it is an early one.
Abbott too is not going to lead forever this may be the year he goes.
No crash this year but while America may improve its position some country's will find massive debt we have not known about, trouble and uncertainty there for us all.
We will get an ETS most off the western world will.
Very real chance exists Afghanistan will have to fight its own battles by years end, corruption and waste, lives too, are having an effect on the west, worth watching if America finds a way out that saves face it will go.
Boat people , while the harm they bring is debatable,even the good they may bring, few can ignore these deaths.
Or the fact family's, whole family's are coming on the next boat.
Good thoughts and wishes exist but we will find more and more confrontation from both sides of politics.
Harsh measures will be put in place and the boats will slow even stop, it may well be no boat people will be processed at all, in the name of, not saying I believe it, safety at sea.

What are your thoughts?

its too late in the year for guessing games belly

but

petrol is going to go up
[in american dollars]

housing will go down
[in ozzie dollars]

there shall be a doubling of people
not being able to cover the costs of increased prices..in services

all labour govts will be loosing their elections
and the people who thought they could collude to buy up/sell down.. state services..will get a huge shock...

[loss of assets..and jail time]
accusation of treason...

and many sworn alliegance to the british law society..
a foreign entity..under the constitution..forced to resign

spain will take the bailout
ireland will have its second exodus

the euro..will hang on grimly...
[till the germatic titans..call it off]
cause even the euro zone..cant afford their industrial fruits

wikileaks will release the suppressed israel texts
israel will push for an attack on iran

japan will push china..over a darn island
but only after north korea...lets loose a few warning shots

there is a special event
being planned..by the mossad/cia..on the 11/11/11
but by then..that will be the least of our worries

chinas housing boom ends in a riot

heck..ya got any good news
write it into a card

im sick of reading wet tissues

happy new year bro
some things its better we dont know

Boxing Day 2011? Give us a break please. We should have at least a year to recover from Boxing Day 2010 and the indigestion, the bloody left overs,the relatives,the -ugh!- shops with all that dreadful advertising . Please[sob!] give us a break.

My family was a welcome addition to my Christmas, sorry about yours.
Well maybe they think much the same mine would be as pleased as I was bet on it.
We can not look forward to a quite year.
Boat people first, a majority may well not fear these boats.
But enough do to see we will have a change this year, hiding the head under the blanket will change nothing.
Aussies are concerned at enclaves that are increasingly one culture.
Boat people have the job in front of them, massive numbers of humans on the move world wide do, to convince many they are refugees not in danger but looking for a better life.
Interesting days ahead on this issue.
Housing bubble is going to burst, migration keeps it afloat but increasing interest rates will bring about our problems here.
Fuel? up wards and nothing to do with shortages .
Will we be seeing more wars? if not we will be lucky Iran, North Korea that one morning must come hope its not this year but do not bank on it.

"some things its better we dont know"

OUG, you surely do not believe in the Mayan calendar forecasts kids are talking about towards the end of 2011/12?

Rumours are reportedly rife through facebook and other sites concerning some young people.

WAU.....See to answer bellies on another thread.....is that the smartest people,are in fact....the biggest dumb-f..ks on the planet that pretend to be the Jesus,s of our currant situation. So boxing day...one may well shadow box themselves:) See in a mind-set reality.....we are at fault..........hence not thinking beyond your short-slightness that will bring undue blame as we are the one's that say....all is fine. We know not will be fine.............and while you old rape the planet..........and you say you love your children......bullsh@t you do..........and how are we kidding? We know the old are out of date..........We know they just think of themselves.............We know they have not us in their sights.

This is a cryptic post.....like all....yarn:)....and where is the human-race going? lol...and its no laughing matter.

Iam just a music teacher.....and what song are they playing for you.:)

BLUE

In other words.....the smartest people that control the world, are the one's that's killing this planet that you have to inherit after they have finished with it ,and that's the plain simple facts of the matter, which effects you.

And what are you doing about it? Nothing.

1...They make you pay for your education......not to smart in my realities. If they want the best of the best....your education should be for free.

2...I have friends that come from low in-come families, and these students have some of the highest in-tels that would put most upper level people to shame.

Bob brown/ greens have these answers that gives all the fair/go that all Australians should have in-stead of just the rich capitalizing on the wealth of this country....and all are in this for the all....................any questions...Australia?

Liberal and labour are out of date.

And you work your guts out and where the jobs?

Just have a look at the greens path-ways.......you wont be disappointed.

BLU

OK no walking around that.
Not sure what you are saying deep blue or why you say it.
I however have noted a difference in your posts from your first post under that name.
WHY.
I do not drink and drive, cars trucks or my PC care to comment.
Recently debate here has got better,it needed to.
Every post is Representative of us all, we never know who may be reading or from what country.
I am no saint but the real me is on display always.
As for a message in another thread? not the slightest idea what that is about.
While boxing day is the title the thread is about the next 12 months, views ideas and never,for me at least about hocus pockus predictions based on witch craft .
WAU not a shot at you, your question was legitimate one.
Lastly DB your ability to swear and get it past filter is not impressing me, unneeded forany one who can put words together.
I remain unimpressed with your self indulgent use of such rubbish.

Belly..just giving you a stir........I hope your not one of those Australians that give it out.....but cant take it...........It seems QLD is full of them:)

"Not sure what you are saying deep blue or why you say it."

Well shut up:)...every post is Representative of us all, we never know who may be reading or from what country.

Well sorry general director...I didn't understand that I needed your permission.

This is an opinon site..........and if you don't like the content....you know are other sites.

BLUE

Stopping the USA/Israel from attacking Iran or North Korea should be our objective.NO MORE WARS!

Deep Blue you did not need to go there.
You have been here not long at all, and you invite me to leave?
In truth you baffle me, not very long ago, do you want me to quote the post? you said you are a conservative.
This thread, notice it is one I started?
You infer Sainthood on the greens.
Never mind I remain unsure what you are on about.
Arjay, ok by me, put the guns away.
Ah hang on!
Will Iran and North Korea do the same?
America disarms your problems are over, not one of us will have the freedom to say anything here.
Seems I wasted my time, comment based on understanding of the world as it is and may be are rare here so we might be better moving on to threads about footballers.
Still think swearing is a result of not having the vocabulary to get the message across without offending.

we are unique
im not much in favour of opinions
ans 2012..is only peoples opinion

but read the signs
change is comming..

when/where/who/what..will change..is up to us individually
you say the kids are paying heed to the timming of 2012
[december 25]

so im trying to think whats special about that day
i think i have a clue..[with the xmass card thread]

for long i thought a pole shift was on the cards
but as i become more aware..im sure its some abrupt moral correction

see how we now burden the kids with lifelong debt
just to get an education..then add in fees and intrest[ursury]...on top

see how kids wages[minimum wage]..has barely moved over the last 20 years

see how house prices have trippled
these kids are living of credit...at EXTREEM intrest rates
bonded ibnto perpetual debt...they shall be slaves to debt

the bankers own them from school to grave
they will need medication to breed..thanks to the poisens put into them..in the name of vacinating them from every concievable germ

these children are our highest evolution
the fruits of mankind..and we are setting them up as slaves..to a biased hurtfull..uncaring system

if change can wait..till 25 dec..2012
the kids will not wait one hour longer

no more bankers controling money..thus govt..who needs to tax us EVER more taxes..just to repay the intrest...[note the intrest bill ALONE..

runs into trillions..
as thomas advised judas..
[at the card thread]..things are pulling to a head

those who think to own the system..the media..education..the world
dont got nothing but control..over it..for now

yes they can kep filling us with debt/fears...lies laws..and pr spin
but soon..the kids wont care...

and we are all..fast getting...there
just look at two of our beloved postes

boxing heads together
THIS boxing day

there but is a sample
of a boxing day..not too far away

govt needs to seize back the banks
re monetise coinage...as being the same value as it was

before the bankers stole it

[ie gold coins have their value in gold
silver coins their weight in silver
and copper coins..the same at gold]

this will mean your small change has value
and its value will be face value in notes

so a one cent=one dollar
10 cents=10 paper dollars
one dollar coin=100 dollars in paper..[bank]..promisary-notes

see paper is obnly money by decree
decree is called fiat..[thus we have fiatised debt]
but its debt created..ONLY VIA BANKS

all paper debt was caused by bankers lending it
we pay ursury on it..which has caused all the other troubles

[inflation...means a dollar today..isnt valued in gold/silver
but in a value that allways..ALLWAYS*..IS LESS

THAN IT WAS worth..LAST YEAR
but the METAL IN COINS..has gone up
EVERY-year..!

the poor have been ripped off

In the Midas video here,
the scam known as quantitative easing is explained.
in a vidio
http://www.infowars.com/qe2-explained/

http://www.economiccollapse.net/quantitative-easing-qe2-what-could-go-wrong

ie more paper..more debt..!

but the VALUE of the paper..is less
because were printing..more of it

but still only got the same COINage...
[real value..underpinning it]

The Federal Reserve and the corporate media
tell us not to worry,
the bankers will save us..with QE2.

In fact,..the scheme is designed to devalue the U.S. dollar and create a whole new range of asset bubbles....

[stock prices go up...[ie cost more paper]..
but the VALUE behind the paper..has DEflated..
as much as the QUANTITY of paper..has been INFLATED

its karmic
yin/yang

can only decieve..not cure the real problem

Midas Resources explains how QE2 works
and..why it is killing the dollar and our future.

http://www.midasresources.com/

as have i tried many times
the cure is to give the poor BACK their small change
return to THEM..THEIR coin-age

Your thought processes, lack of respect and language illustrates more about your intelligence than other people Deep Blue.

WAU good morning, the idea seemed to have merit to me.
I am forced to admit it failed.
May be its title miss led some.
We however will watch as 2011 unfolds and talk about each of the issues as they surface.
I propose as a last attempt to breath life ,and usefulness in to this thread we take a turn about here.
Change the subject.
Given my near failure on more than one thread, to not let my self be baited what do we want from OLO in the next twelve months.
My list, more people from other country's commenting.
More respect[yes from me too]for posters rights to think differently.
A flow of subjects that inform and educate even entertain.
Some humor threads.
A re look of the need for two category's in posting a new thread, sometimes hard.
And? ever the sales man, but for good reason, this forum needs those who can to contribute.
May EVERY contributor/poster have a safe happy new year.

OK thread is dead that much is sure I invite some one who sees value in my idea for OLO 2011? to use it.
I wounder however, hitting the red cross, asking that deletion be considered does not frighten me.
I truly, not for the first time, considered asking for Deep Blues effort to be looked at.
But doubt existed, am I being too hard?
If others did not maybe I should not.
We may yet need a thread that asks when is it right to report.

threads begin and end
if deletion is the new thing
im over posting

why put considerd points down into words
if someone only says gimme back my bat and ball

when they dont like the score

worse run to the ummpire and say
this game never happend
its just not cricket

if you dont like blues opinion..then either ignore it
or rebut what they say..you asked for our opinion..and got it

i personally dont care..what peoples opinion is..[right or wrong]..because it is only opinion...and i will change my opnion..just as others will change theirs in time too

we are doing this boxing day wrong
and you encouraging others to take it off topic
mate that just sounds suss...so suss i just have to take you up on it

AFTER YOU GIVE UP THE THREAT
to get grayham..TO DELETE IT

it will be a case of
thats,...naa-how you do ...box sing day

get it

or a case of ...
thats not a..boss in a box...in a day
this is a..knife..[couldnt make mr done dee come out funny]

any how box in day...is the first day of the new year
[if we going to persist
with the delusion of christ..being born on the 25 th dec]

we are now in the 2011..th year of the christ
yet aso called new years day is still days away

mate..its as crazey as work choices..being about choice at work

bc=before christ..people seem to do xmass...before christ gets here
then the day after..he gets here...are boxing each others ears
stop playing cricket...and run home to mummy with the bat

idont think of xmass like that
look at the so called ..'nativity scenes'
the christ child..DONT EVEN..HOP into his cradle..

till xmass DAY...he settles down for a peacefull nap
and bang...we cop one..right in the window...duhh*

looks like we shall ned to wear our
no balls protecter..all year round

im calling it a no ball
not a dead ball

ho/ho/ho...and away we go
happy new year

if you wanna know whats in the future
go no further than max keisser
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NxpRhm5yz0&feature=related

also think why jp morgan is buying silver
big time...[not just the paper promises..but the real stuff]

check out the spike

peopple are getting out of paper money
into hard assets

the best we can do is buy food
food is going to do strange things this year

on the strange things
note the sun..has sun spots..every 11 years
indicating..the poles are going to shift

on the earth ..the poles shifting
is reflected in weather patterns

i should study sun spot movements
against weather pattern's
but hey

who cares anyhow

anyhow using up the last day of my 3 internet acces
[its been bought up by vodaphone]

got a dodo...on limited acces
but its very slow...spend near all day waiting for the thing to connect

so im off to watch some youtube
till my 3 expires

happy..box in..day

hope next year
you have a happy new ear

what you got to reveal max

curses on briz 31
for not putting you to
free to air...anymore...

the govt has got too much control..even over community tv
this digetal divide is a big con...why arnt the boxes free?

whats with ten...[tv]
and the elites buying in..on its shares
getting on their board...anyhow see ya

Belly:

Thanks for this thread and sorry to come in so late, but for what it's worth here are some of my thoughts:
As far as politics is concerned - the government is in for three years
and by the end of 2011, we should see some development of their election policies. I hope that the Iraq and Afghan wars will be over but with the American hawkish determination, I doubt it. Economically, we seemed to have survived the worst and let's hope that we'll continue to do so. As for boat people, we have to wait and see what Malaysia and Indonesia will say to our government's proposals. As for carbon pollution, recent scientific assessments claim is that it's already too late to save the planet - let's hope they're not serious and that it's merely a scare tactic to get a positive reaction to obstructionists and stubborn governments. All in all our future will probably continue as it is - at least in our lifetime. Let us hope that it won't be detrimental to our grandchildren.

Belly:

I forgot to wish you a Happy New Year and to Thank You for your continued friendship and support. I'll drink a toast to your health on New Year's Eve, and here's Wishing you All The Best that Life has to offer (and then some)!

lexi wrote seems were over the worst of the economic cycle
thats so funny lexi

clearly..us unemployment..is actually running at 23 percent
[not every yank can get the dole]

house prices fell two percent..this year alone[usa]
we havnt begun this cycle yet

usa councils are going bust...[no income from...home..'owners'..lol]
so they go bust....allowing the bankrupcy auditers to renegotiate DOWNWARDS..the wages of the council workers

who provide much of the welfare

add in the outstanding debt...defaults comming
and the fact there isnt enough real gold..to underpin the paper gold market[globally]...its hard to be optimistic

the max keiser clip refuses to play past 15 minute mark
so there is no doudt other stuff isnt allowed to air

he just began asking this guy
http://www.creditwritedowns.com/

questions

so the answer..to more predictions
shall lie..in this direction..in many ways

i like the saying/trueism
inflation is theft from the poor

remember this as inflation..hits its peaks
add in the extra taxes..fees charges...

[dont forget the extra 60 dollar levie..going on your power bill next year..to pay for the federal...'renewable energy..SCEME']

and so much more
the news ser-vice..refuses to tell us about

and even you tube..refuses to play
web/2..is working..just like it was planned to work

One Under God I do not wish to clash with you too.
In fact I think if you think it out, you will agree some posts must be reported.
In my time here many have, some swore, some defamed, some are pure spam.
Others trawled for fights.
Mate without rules, without control no site can survive.
I can swear, like a bullock driver in fact, once it is in print it offends me even more.
Restraint, is a tool most of us use in putting words in to print, look at the post that upset me.
Tell me the person who posted it had standards at the time of posting or concerns about others.
Lexi good on you same to you and every one.
My insults to parts of Labors actions are truly held NSW and QLD are lost SA seemingly too but the lessons will be learned improvements coming.
Our not so secrete weapon? Tony Abbott, my biggest concern,Turnbull in control.

Went back, read those two posts OUG, sorry bloke, get a grip ok.
Filthy talk from DB is not something to defend, leave you to it mate but try to hold on to reality all the best.

as the you tube vidio refuses to play the full clip
i found a way arround it..
http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2010/12/banking-self-regulation.html

[without swearing]..[or responding to trolls about swearing]
[im not buying into any of it]

i spoke to Max Keiser recently..about a number of issues in a wide-ranging interview featured below.

http://www.creditwritedowns.com/tag/video/

In the video, Max and Stacy Herbert talk about some of the hot button issues of the day like the banking sector in Ireland and the lack of criminal prosecutions in the US for the first 13 minutes or so.

In the last half of the video I talk to Max about a lot of topics including gold, mortgage fraud, WikiLeaks, currency revulsion, and sovereign debt.

Let me focus on one: fraud. It is astounding when you think that the US suffered the worst financial crisis in three-quarters of a century after an epidemic of fraud and it hasn’t yet seen any major prosecutions.

And, yes, in 2004 the FBI warned of a mortgage fraud ‘epidemic’ and sought to head off the ‘next S&L crisis’. So let’s get that straight.

http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2010/03/fbi-warns-of-mortgage-fraud-epidemic-seeks-to-head-off-next-sl-crisis.html

The financial commission tasked with looking into this has devolved into a partisan shambles, with the Republicans pre-emptively releasing its own version of events scrubbed of any anti-banking connotations in terms like "Wall Street" and "shadow banking" or the words "interconnection" and "deregulation".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/14/financial-crisis-panel-wall-street_n_796839.html

What is likely to happen if the mortgage and foreclosure crisis becomes a systemic legal problem?

My take: We will see efforts to fix the problem by changing the rules much as the end of mark-to-market fixed the credit writedowns problem in 2009.
http://www.creditwritedowns.com/tag/credit/

That’s America’s idea of bank regulation.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/14/financial-crisis-panel-wall-street_n_796839.html

so thats my prediction
http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/07/how-not-to-use-fireworks.html

http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2010/03/replacing-market-failure-with-regulatory-failure.html

little wonder
those running web2
tried to hush that up

almost as bad as..nsw govt shuttring down shop
till after the election

cant have the electorate knowing the scam...man
play the ball...not the man

Bellies.....lol....its all good my friend.....your a good man and poster, so don't you forget that.

P/S I can defend myself quite well:)

BLUE

OUG....Iam going to be child-ish now.....i CONSIDER belly to be of substance.....you on the other hand are something else:) but you do bring the fellow human into prospective:) Like Ive said before.....slow down and take it easy......Your religion has failed......your be-lies I understand.....and how we the people see and feel pity....not for you, but for the bull that's not your fault... and millions of others. Life is a matter of balance, and when I see this.....it provokes an instant reaction.
The world has moved on my friend......and its about time that some that are a bit slow.....we will wait for you......and that's human.

Your wounded chem, and we understand.

Take it easy.......if there's is a god......its not helping you or the world, and I think the cats out of the bag now OUG......However your living has a right.....and don't you forget that......all the best.

BLUE

I am afraid Deep Blue that post confirmed for me, you are not a person of substance.
OUG has in the past taken more care in posts but it may well be true he needs to let his fingers keep up with his thoughts.
I have no idea how ever why you claim to be able to judge another's intellect but not police your own words.
Please let the thread die, it never got close to its subject.

Belly...its the silly season.........just a bit of light entertainment which you obviously don't get.

"Please let the thread die, it never got close to its subject......and being this time of the year...you cant figure that out:(

Boxing Day 2011? Give us a break please. We should have at least a year to recover from Boxing Day 2010 and the indigestion, the bloody left overs,the relatives,the -ugh!- shops with all that dreadful advertising . Please[sob!] give us a break.
Posted by mickijo, Monday, 27 December 2010 2:06:40 PM

I thought after this post you might of got the message.

Please let the thread die"

Buddy....it was dead before it started.

No sence of humor or reality either:)

Good luck Mr Scrooge.

P/S Just take a chill pill and it will be alright soon:)

BLUE

My prediction for Australia is:

we start a national project to harvest water
we look towards nuclear power for the national grid
we do not become a net importer of food
we bring back free university for our kids
we re tool terms of reference and further fund the CSIRO
we bring back quarantine laws dropped to facilitate trade
we limit foreign ownership of land and resources
we support our old and poor before foreign aid
we protect the small business from corporate predation
we abolish payroll tax
we regulate the banking system
we reinstitute import duty
and we, we we we all the way home.

That would be my Disneyland wish, but this is Australia and there is no dream left. The black mans and now the white mans dream time is over.

Good on you SOG at least you put your wish list together.
You will know I share some of it but this was not about wishes it was about just what may promise or confront us this year.
I wounder how many of us take it for granted a war will come one day, or that financial crisis can be much worse than this one is, so far.
Lexi said the government has three years, it may be 3 months.
Nothing is sure.
Nothing to answer DB.

My prognostication is that the Gillard govt will go the distance, there may be a point of policy contention but Gillard must realize that even though she needs the Greens and the independents to rule, they need her to survive. But does she have the decency to dissolve parliament if the need arises, definitely not, lawyers fight to the death.

SOG people may think I am mad but I think Labor and Liberals would be looking for a double dissolution election.
After all greens having the balance of power post mid year helps only them.
The current confrontational Parliament would need great change to get around the greens.
So I pump for a DD election,confrontation between Labor and the greens, some working together greens/Liberals then a dog fight between them too to set up an election.
Gillard will need great improvement to stay leader.
Harsh anti boat people laws this year.
America gets out of the middle east.

You may have something there Belly. After the last election I decided when it comes to a two horse race in politics they are both favourites, somebody always bets on them regardless of the form guide.

SOG I was always good at maths, even before I could read I could add up.
Greens are sailing along on discontent. mostly with my party.
They represent no More than 15% of over all votes, some one will quote much higher votes in the NSW election in March.
No government, including the last Howard one, deserves its massacre as much as my team, it will come.
Think with me on this,I believe more people are opposed to the Greens than any other party of the three.
It seems likely to me discontented Labor and Liberal combined would not out number those opposed to the greens.
As 2011 progresses both Gillard and Abbott will try to first win the greens over, then to stand against them.
That DD election is favorite to be the reason the next election is held.
Conservatives ride too on Labors failures and if it does not put distance between it and greens Labor faces 3 terms in opposition.
My Friends from the greens will be unhappy, but in this big country we have two choices to govern, and most want only those in power, put me in that group.

Belly it is all too much for me, I look at one side of the fence and despair; I look at the other side and moan. I have said that the quality and empathy of our politicians have gone downhill since both the majors focused on having a gaggle of lawyers on their teams.

I had a look at the new DLP policies, they suit me, but again it comes back to talent, do we have any left. I have nowhere to go.

Happy New Year Belly.

I think I can both give a view and stay on subject.
For me the Rudd failure was very hard to swallow.
I trusted and believed in him.
I watched him turn up at NSW state conferences and country conferences when no reason ,no chance he would lead was in sight.
He impressed me, remember however, very briefly Latham once did too.
We all see what we want to, hopefully are honest enough to admit it.
Rudd froze at the wheel, not having built a following within the government he forgot, leadership is about team work.
Delegating, mentoring, letting go, he still smiles nicely, looks impressive on the stage, probably is a nice bloke.
Those lawyers,and the nice young upwardly mobile self servers on BOTH SIDES,they understand only how to get a foot on the steps.
Right now this country is lead by,ON BOTH SIDES, those who forget its about passion,improvements for every one .
AND NOT about looking good on TV no guts no gains.
And my party is acting like it is private property, not a party off all we exist to knock on doors hand out how to votes tell mass meetings why Labor is best but then like children be put out the back to play.
This year I promise starts the rebuilding, it will be better, NSW will startle this country, QLD will too,SA is Liberal bound.
Labor is out of fashion, out of guts to be what it truly is/has to be.
That will change,it is good for my party to face a look in to its own dark cupboard see its own skeletons.
This year brings that.
While I target Labor every word I say is true of Liberalism, and this year be warned they begin to understand that and improve.
The becalmed state of my mob is giving clean air to the next leader of conservatives and we may pay for it.
Last greens, those jumping in to that life boat are headed for the rocks, never ever will that boat float, it how ever may keep conservatives in power.

the abc mentioned howhards minesterial info
was released from 86

interesting search results

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=wages+howard+archives+release&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

its hard getting into his burble

but did notice these bits

Ministers believed Australians would accept thousands of Indochinese refugees if the nation's obligation to help were explained.

A submission from Mr Howard in June 1980 said government spending as a proportion of GDP was the same in 1979-80 as in 1975-76 - the last year of the Whitlam government - at 38 per cent, compared with 33 per cent in the five years to 1974-75.

In 1980, the Treasury did not foresee the downturn that pushed the developed world, including Australia, into recession just a year later.

But Mr Howard did point to one major reason for it - large wage increases.

well he fixed that

In other words.....the smartest people that control the world, are the one's that's killing this planet that you have to inherit after they have finished with it ,and that's the plain simple facts of the matter, which effects you.

And what are you doing about it? Nothing.

1...They make you pay for your education......not to smart in my realities. If they want the best of the best....your education should be for free.

2...I have friends that come from low in-come families, and these students have some of the highest in-tels that would put most upper level people to shame.

Funny old world:) isn't it.

BLUE