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Depleted Uranium; Fallujah worse than Hiroshima.
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Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 16 December 2010 6:03:36 AM
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Well done Arjay... thanx for highlighting the good will, compassion, and altruism of the patriotic and noble insurgents who did a lot of the killing of innocents in fallujah just to make the Allies look bad.
After all..now the people of Iraq have been denied the amazing opportunity to watch their children's eyes gouged out before them.. daughters raped by Sadaams sons, and various other unsavory actions characteristic of the regime which the fight in Fallujah was about. You stun me.. totally stun me... in that you can rant and rave about the eeeeeevils of the "Neo Cons" but you say NOTHING ..nada...zip about the real evils of Islamofascism and socialists in Islamic garb which perpetrated the original atrocities that Fallujah was one small part of getting RID of. You need help Arjay.. serious help mate. Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Thursday, 16 December 2010 12:03:19 PM
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This isn’t just killing them; this is the sickening use of banned weapons knowing that babies and children will die slowly and in pain for a long time to come.
Why are people still living there? Posted by Jewely, Thursday, 16 December 2010 1:59:13 PM
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AIR,you have lost the plot.In one instance you marvel at my revelations that the Simpsons were able to predict 911 and now rail against a reality that is harming Jews and Iraqis alike.You AIR are totally inconsistant.
We don't have the stats on other Middle Eastern fertility rates or birth deformities.Israel has the money and resources.This is why there needs to be an extensive scientfic enquiry.If the war spreads to Iran and the US uses even more depleted uranium,then all people on this planet will be affected.Uranium adheres well to your DNA AIR and causes sickness and birth deformities.The war mongering neo-cons will use even more if we are silent. AIR,will your grandchildren be more intelligent with two heads? Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 16 December 2010 5:40:44 PM
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Just look at what a few nuclear tests in the australian desert did ? fifty, sixty years on & it's still causing wharped brains many miles away in Sydney & Melbourne as well as many smaller places.
I think it's just so deplorable that it is beyond words how some idiots can tolerate this outcome & even justify it in the name of faith. Faith, my lillywhite butt, this is not faith ? This is utter stupidity. Posted by individual, Thursday, 16 December 2010 5:55:31 PM
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Arjay...I hate to burst your conspiracy bubble there but:
A recent United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) report giving field measurements taken around selected impact sites in Kosovo (Federal Republic of Yugoslavia) indicates that contamination by DU in the environment was localized to a few tens of metres around impact sites. Contamination by DU dusts of local vegetation and water supplies was found to be extremely low. Thus, the probability of significant exposure to local populations was considered to be very low. Of the uranium that is absorbed into the blood, approximately 70% will be filtered by the kidney and excreted in the urine within 24 hours; this amount increases to 90% within a few days. COMMENT. Nothing like a bit of science to straighten things up eh :) Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Thursday, 16 December 2010 6:10:37 PM
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AIR,then why are US soldiers coming home sick with Gulf war syndrome?Seemingly it has no explanation.There is no way the US Govt will admit culability since the law siuts will send them even more broke.
Why are there so many birth deformities in Fallujia? Prof Busby and others are questioning the conventional wisdom.Any radiation adhereing to your DNA cannot be helpful. Posted by Arjay, Thursday, 16 December 2010 6:28:16 PM
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Ajay..lol
"AIR,will your grandchildren be more intelligent with two heads?" Some are flat-out thinking with one head...lol. The US is trying to start up trouble.....and wants to make as many enemies as it can.......but back to the topic....Depleted Uranium is a far better killing tool than conventional war brings. Long after The US have left....the killing continues.....and they know it. The US want the world. Just you watch them..........mark my words. Minerals, Minerals, Minerals! Australia has the world's largest resources of low-cost uranium (recoverable at costs of less than US$40/kg U), with approximately 43% of world resources in this category. Other countries which have large low-cost resources include Kazakhstan (21%), Canada (18%) and South Africa (8%). so when sold under our so-called strict laws concerning uranium......after the fuel is spent...tank rounds are manufactured to help the US kill more Innocent people and destroy the environment.....which will render the land worth-less..... People loving Christians..........what a joke. BLUE Posted by Deep-Blue, Thursday, 16 December 2010 9:54:46 PM
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Deep-Blue ,next yr is crucial.We have to expose the neo-cons in USA and Israel in trying to expand the wars into Iran or even pick a fight with China.
Wikileaks has exposed Aust intelligence sources saying that Iran is not a threat and Israel could start a nuclear war in the Middle East. The people are beginning to wake up.Let's hope it is in the nick of time. Posted by Arjay, Friday, 17 December 2010 7:26:03 AM
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Well done Arjay :)
"Why are there so many birth deformities in Fallujia?" I can tell you why mate..because those nasty insurgents are going around injecting people with 'thalidomde' or putting it in the water... That has as much credibility as your wild theory. Can you prove it wrong? BLUE another *something* not sure what you are.. Leftist Internationalist perhaps? Your anti american diatribe tends to place you in that camp. Arjay..you want to get cozy with Blue and save the world...ok...that's a noble ambition... But what I continue to wonder is...'for whom'? and on the basis of 'what' ideology? Care to elaborate and satisfy my curiousity? You are obviously (both of you) working from a lot of passion, but passion has to have a basis/foundation/ideological base or it's just plain stilly. So... spell out yours please ? Mine? you know where I stand..but my criticisms of many things are mainly to open minds to the deeeeper question/issue of mans alientation from our Creator, and their desperate need to be reconciled through Christ. (That includes you two) I cannot offer any government system, all I can offer is renewed people. Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Friday, 17 December 2010 10:04:03 AM
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Gore.........BLUE another *something* not sure what you are.. Leftist Internationalist perhaps?
Your anti American diatribe tends to place you in that camp. Al...No..just a concerned realist. Ajay.....see this is what i don't understand. http://tinyurl.com/35myzrf http://tinyurl.com/3xj4evk All I can see is genocide. The US is afraid of the eastern nations, and fear...... and not for any other reasons but to wipe out something that conflicts with their bull-ism, religious-ism and conceded minds. ( 2 and 3 world people have lost the race......just like the Neanderthal man did back in his time.....again! Sorry....its just human-nature Ajay) Nothing but man-bear;pig:) War is the only way they can see...( culling the human species ).......and in the middle-east=desserts.......and this where the least damage can be caused. They also get to play with their little tanks and bombs just to play the fantasy that we have seen for decades on the silver-screen.........and this is the part of the religious minds that I find most disturbing. Acting out the soldiers fantasy....is in fact a part of the human condition.....hence why its hard for us as humans to break old and built in habits. Our Evaluational maturity is not quite up to task when for controlling our breeding understandings. Unfortunately these are the only tools mans primitive minds can muster that this point in time. Its just the way we do it. Maybe after the next War.....we will be smaller enough to control ourselves. Lucky we live here........and believe it:) BLU Posted by Deep-Blue, Friday, 17 December 2010 1:41:13 PM
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BLU,It is all about money and power.When the cold war ended in the 1990's they needed a new enemy to keep the arms race moving.That enemy was Al Qaeda.Their biggest boon was global warming.The world was over populating and destroying the planet.So the planet needed saving by a few elite neo-cons.Wars of imperialism would solve many of their problems and make their 'New World Order' a reality.
They have no regard for the people of Fallujah or ordinary folk of Israel.Power is their goal and even a nuke war is winnable in their eyes. AIR we have not said the birth defects in Fallujah can be all attributed to Uranuium.The evidence according to Prof Busby points at Uranium.Busby says there needs to be more study done but WHO and the US Govt ignore the suffering. Posted by Arjay, Friday, 17 December 2010 5:10:29 PM
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Ajay.
"They have no regard for the people of Fallujah or ordinary folk of Israel.Power is their goal and even a nuke war is winnable in their eyes. See...that's what I don't understand. NO_ONE WINS. Blue Posted by Deep-Blue, Friday, 17 December 2010 5:18:47 PM
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ARJAY... I still don't get where you are coming from? ? ?
What ideology are you advocating? ? ? You say: //BLU,It is all about money and power.// Ummmmm can you tell me when it has NOT been about that in the sum total of human history by all sides of conflicts ? ? ? Are you so naive that you just think by exposing this stuff it will suddenly cease to be about those things? You seem to have a messianic complex about this, but you are a messiah without an afterlife mate.... You just seem to want to drag down, but not offer something as a basis for rebuilding. It makes you look like a bitter old twat who just revels in whining. (I'm not saying you 'are') Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Friday, 17 December 2010 8:18:07 PM
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AIR,after all our interactions you still refuse to join the dots.
Blue,it all goes back to 1913 when President Woodrow Wilson gave the power of money creation to the US Federal Reserve.This meant that a private group of banks could possess the increases in GDP of the US population and loan it back to them as debt.This made a select group of banks more powerful than many countries on the planet.They were able to create wars for profit and create booms and busts,thus buying up assests for cents on the dollar. The Fed creates and loans all the money needed to run the US economy and much of Europe.They tell our pollies when to jump and how high. They backed the concept of 'The New World Order'.JFK warned us about the military industrial complex.It is this cabal of banksters,arms manufacturers,oil companies and drug companies that has the world on the path to war.The US believe that they can win a strategic nuke war.They have been developing small nukes for quite a while.There is no way the US will win a conventional war against China.This is why an escallation of nuke weapons will soon get out of control. The US is not currently been led by people of sound judgement or intellect.The Elites who created the GFC and stole $ trillions from ordinary folk,are seeking war as their escape from justice.This is why logic does not prevail.War is looming and we must stop it. Posted by Arjay, Friday, 17 December 2010 11:23:21 PM
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Look! Iam sure you just all need each other..........and that's fine.
You all see whats the game to you.....and that's fine. Time then must be on your hands then..............good! Now it's your next move:) There waiting for your answer:) BLUE Posted by Deep-Blue, Saturday, 18 December 2010 12:41:39 AM
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Ajay...forget that last post.............I could tell you why.......but it would just mess up your world......and your xmas. Just go with the flow.
Friend.........I hate what I see in todays world...........but I will not stop in what I believe in, and if that takes my life........so be it. The gate Keepers Job is to work all into one. Enjoy your Xmas............as we will do. Stay cool. BLUE Posted by Deep-Blue, Saturday, 18 December 2010 1:33:13 AM
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Dear Arjay.. I was mostly 'with' you in that last post, up to the point where you connected the "Military Industrial Complex" to the Bankers.
I won't elaborate too far on that, to aviod fact challenged argument, but I have no problem with your idea of the Bankers and the Fed....Glenn Beck is with you too FYI. Where you create a bit of cynicism is this...you don't provide an IDEOLOGY or..POLITICAL ANSWER. You seem to be simply saying "We must stop it".....but for the love of Pete.. who is 'we' ? and do you think 'we' can stand up to the huge resources you have outlined? My position though is that there is NO "political/ideological" answer which will 'fix' the system/world politically. You should know me well enough by now that my position is this: "New PEOPLE create new world orders" and to my mind the very best we can hope for is just that prior to Christ returning, the forces of darkness will be restrained sufficiently for us to survive. The Political answer is....new hearts... united with Christ. We can hope for nothing more than that such renewed people will simply reshuffle the social and economic priorities in such a way that we can live reasonable lives with reasonable freedom. If you are hoping for 'masses in the streets' to change what you perceive as 'them'.... give up :) people care about one thing... "MY HIP POCKET" they don't care about incremental theft of their freedom unLESS you can show how it effects them personal and economically. SO...I'll repeat my challenge: WHAT do you see as the solution to the Global Banking NWO Conspiracy? Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Saturday, 18 December 2010 7:56:57 AM
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AIR,I think that the NWO has failed already,but it will be difficult to stop their wars.China and Russia will now drop the $ US since they are depreciating their own currency to offset debts.It is the US people who will suffer.
Their first step as Ron Paul suggests is to either nationalise the US Fedeal Resreve or replace it with their own Govt monetary system.We need to get back a new Govt bank that can create new money as a tax credit for infrastructure.The RBA board need to be repalced by a group representing the wider community and not international corps. The RBA for the moment could become the lender of first resort so we would not have to borrow from OS reserve banks.This will solve our debt problem. Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 19 December 2010 8:33:54 AM
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Reasonably fair comment Arjay, but that doesn't seem to fit your grand "they're gunna git us" massive conspiracy theory.
I agre with those steps for the USA, and it seems the Tea Party mob realize this kind of thing too...and they are having an impact on the Republicans, while the Demobrats just, (like Phaoroh) harden their hearts. I think you need to bite off smaller chunks which will appear at least 'chewable' to your readers. I focus on the Watermelons, the Socialists, the Progressives etc, because "we" can actually DO something about them with our vote. We can't do squat for the assertion that 9/11 was a huge inside job... the Simpsons episode is creepy I admit, but we need to look at 'motive' and benefit. Motive? I can't see any Benefit? Nope..can't see that either. I read the explanation of the producer for that episode. Why not assist in exposing the heinous progressives who are infecting our whole society with satanic values and our education system far more than some obscure bankers in Brussells.. (Until of course, and if, the NWO is successful and then, you better start reading Revelation 13 mate) Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Sunday, 19 December 2010 9:00:16 AM
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Algore,
Still the eternal apologist for any atrocities carried out against your perceived enemy I see. I suggest you have a look at this film - http://www.bsharp.net.au/htm/the-film.htm before you consider yourself to have an informed opinion. "Injecting babies with Thalidomide". You're the one with the problem, sport! Posted by wobbles, Monday, 20 December 2010 3:28:30 PM
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wobbles......your just a allegiance that's see all. DEF...the act of binding yourself (intellectually or emotionally) to a course of action; "his long commitment to public service"; "they felt no loyalty to a losing team"
Sometimes substance is hard to find:) BLUE Posted by Deep-Blue, Friday, 7 January 2011 11:30:30 PM
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Blue,this will be the year that will make or break us.If we don't stop the spread of war,then we are stuffed.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 8 January 2011 12:55:23 AM
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Britian and the USA have been using depleted uranium as an anti-tank weapon and extensively in small rifle weapons.Fallujah is said to have more birth defects than Hiroshima.In the last 10 years studies show that male fertility rates in Israel have fallen by 40%.
There needs to be extensive studies done since this radio-active dust does travel.The war mongering neo-cons seem to have no regard for humanity including themselves.