The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > General Discussion > Reading the economic tea leaves

Reading the economic tea leaves

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. Page 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. ...
  11. 10
  12. 11
  13. 12
  14. All
debt enslaves. Our Government sets the worst example possible spending beyond its means in order to stay electable (and only just). The wastage on a multitude of non productive departments and agencies shows we still have heaps of fat. The best way to avoid financial destruction is to show mercy to the poor. That does not mean lining the pockets of ngo's and charlatans. The world's richest man wrote

'He who has pity upon the poor lends to Jehovah, and He will reward his dealing to him. (Proverbs 19:17)'

God is well able to keep the wise through good and bad times.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 9 December 2010 1:37:15 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Yabby; there is a point that you did not make in that reply.
What effect is peak gold having ?
One reason gold has been rising in value is that poorer ores are being
exploited now and that is causing the rise in price.
However the rise in price may never be related to its value as a
currency backup but to the physical cost of getting it out of the ground.
This cost will rise and rise until nobody can afford it.

I think it would need a monetary expert to explain that.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 9 December 2010 3:00:49 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Bazz you can not eat gold, investors keep it because it buys more money, you can not eat that either.
Yabby those who call for tariffs to come back call for destruction of our economy.
Blind only to jobs, ones that we could never have or hold world trade gives us more than it takes.
I do not fear A mining bust, we have uranium and gas, other products too.
But a world crisis?
it will come.
Here just in our country, people who have never known hard times will.
Housing first, it can not go on without a bust.
Personal credit will bring about big trouble and your 2 to 3 percent interest rise may be 5 or ten one day.
Some will thrive on others failures but we will have a lower standard of living one day.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 9 December 2010 4:25:44 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
*This cost will rise and rise until nobody can afford it.*

Afford it for what Bazz? Gold has very few industrial
uses. People buy it to look at it and hold it in their hands.

There was an interesting discussion on Charlie Rose last night,
where a group of informed old fellas were discussing gold.
Their take is that fear is driving the gold price. Alot of
seemingly very rich people got badly burned during the GFC,
by companies and investments that turned out to nothing in
thin air. Many of those individuals have seemingly become
so mistrusting of the system, that they have invested huge
amounts in gold. So far most of them have done ok.
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 9 December 2010 4:34:38 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Pericles,

You're absolutely correct.

However, the true value of gold is what is placed on it by, for want of a better term - the marketplace.

It can easily be revalued by mutual assent to whatever amount is agreed, but only after the governments hold enough to back up their own economies, and then it can start over again.

Also, even when we had a gold standard, nobody really knew if there was enough gold physically stored in the treasury to back it up. It worked on blind faith.

That's how the whole fractional reserve system started - Gold Merchants borrowing and lending on more than the amount they actually held in their vaults.

More than one commentator has said that the current system's too broken to be fixed and will need to be replaced with something else.

I have no idea what that may be.
Posted by wobbles, Thursday, 9 December 2010 7:18:16 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Runner,
Just replace government with church and you are right on the money.
Ignorance sure is bliss.
Posted by nairbe, Thursday, 9 December 2010 8:17:12 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. Page 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. ...
  11. 10
  12. 11
  13. 12
  14. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy