Why is eveyone blaming the media for a beatup, the P&O staff for their lack of professionalism on board the ship, or even the victim on her alleged sexual indiscretion, or more absurdedly on feminism gone wrong. First fighting for someones life (in this case a female) has nothing to do with feminism. It is a right that anyone has. And how is it a media beatup...when someone has died in such horrific circumstances?

Has anyone here not seen or heard the disgusting recorded messages of some of the accused?

Being on a ship is not just about having fun for yourself, maybe it is, but there is no excuss for highly anti-social behaviour that risk other passengers' lives. Law and order needs to be upheld each and every time, no matter it is on ship or land.

So maybe we should all wait for the due legal process to run its course before making anymore pseudo-theories.

I understand what you are saying

the blokes of Multicultural Appearance WILL be afforded the same "access to justice" as was Anu Singh who was PROVEN to have slipped a Mickey to Joe Cinquie and murdered him by heroin injection along with all the best law students in Canberra - see Helen Garner book

The court will find these blokes too were acting under diminished responsibility because of a pampered upbringing and let them off - correct??

But wait a moment, Joe Cinquie was totally innocent and Ms Grumble was a fat femmo tart out to get laid, AND leaving her daughter alone in a cabin, only to later find her mum was a fat tart.

and I love the way you say wait for full decision BUT talk to "the nasties of the blokes"

Hey the law is an ass under Howard and remember after the bloke WON the Hairy Legged Lesbian case, Howard just axed that whole tribunal after a word in his pinkie from Pru

I have no sympathy for the cruise liners as drunken behaviour, binge drinking and a piss trough of booze, men behaving like Cantebury Football club dropouts, women behaving like vile bushpigs. Some are trapped in this nightmare and are slipped mickey finns.

Its the innocent ones that deserve duty of care. The ones that can handle their drugs and alcohol without raping people to death. The onces not evil enough to slip drugs into drinks just to get their own way.

Look we have laws were any barmen with a Responsiblie Service of Alcohol certificate, knows, that if a person has 4 indicators that they are out of control, you serve them soft drinks and water, and no more booze. Otherwise, the securtiy takes them away. That is the law.

Cruise ships should be no different.

Why are they so lax in searching for Crystal meth, GHB, eccies, or whatever can cause death?

I have no sympathy for P & 0, or their snooty clients who will try to get away with murder. Or manslaughter. Or at least in breach of their "duty of care" which deserves sackings.