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Australia and NZ Economic Union. What about Canada and Singapore?

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There has been a thread discussing last year's Parliament seriously considering the possibility of NZ and Australia "merging" into one unitary government. There were some agreements, some reservations, but most agreed that at least an economic market based on the European Union model would benefit Australia and New Zealand. We keep our national identities and peculiar laws, but we share a common market, a common currency, and develop some common borders between our countries to make them closer.

There is another more interesting possibility of 2 more economies that would really set this new Pacific Union souring. All are Commonwealth countries, all Democracies and all modern economies.

Those are Singapore and Canada.

Singapore was discussed and most appear to notice some logic in how this would help mutual economic security.

The Canadian addition to the mix would make the economic union very interesting. Their Prime Minister, is the other St Fletcher:

http://www.sft-ddt.gc.ca/default_e.htm

This is their version of a conservative PM. It is interesting how he sounds more like Kevin Rudd than he does John Howard, in his "Speech from the Throne" to the "House of Commons" in Ottawa.

Canada wants to lower their GST closer to Australian levels. They are also following Howard's health system. I can imagine a future Rudd Government merging closer to the Canadian system on different issues.

Canada is so interesting how they have kept so many Commonwealth traditions, yet have progressed so liberally into a country brave and independent thinking. It is a smart and savvy economy, a quiet achiever.

Do we have a problem of producing the same primary produce? Not any more. Our agriculture is moving in different directions now. The truth is Ethanol will take more agriculture. Both economies will need to use less coal. That will hurt Canada's economy too. Yet they have produce that Australia lacks, and we have produce they lack.

Tourism would be perfect for NZ, Singapore, Australia and Canada: a place for every season.
Posted by saintfletcher, Saturday, 10 February 2007 1:47:15 AM
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It is somewhat perplexing that Australia doesn't enjoy a closer relationship with Canada considering the strong similarities between the two countries. Even John Howard commented that Australia and Canada "have much in common, but not as much to do with each other as we should."

I'm in strong favour of Canadian entry into the Australia-New Zealand CER and associated travel arrangements. There is a book entitled "The Case for Commonwealth Free Trade: Options for a New Globalization" by Canadian political scientist Brent Cameron which outlines the possibility of Canada's entry into such an arrangement. A tripartite agreement on free trade, freedom of movement and reciprocal citizenship rights wouldn't be too difficult to negotiate considering the framework is already there.
Posted by Oligarch, Saturday, 10 February 2007 11:17:26 PM
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That is interesting Oligarch.

Brent Cameron raises some interesting points in the idea of Commonwealth Free Trade.

It is interesting to read this from a Tori point of view. Cameron clearly advocates John Howard's comments in his recent visit to Ottawa, as a confirmation that Canada, Australia and New Zealand share common interests.

Cameron further believes that the United Kingdom could benefit from breaking away from the European Union and bringing back similar economies like Canada, NZ and Australia, as we have more in common with them. I'm not sure if this would be possible given that the UK has invested so much in the EU.

Never-the-less, it would be far easier for all tripartite nations in such an economic union to face the US in the eye and not be so overshadowed. Apart we seem so insignificant and vulnerable to be being ignored by larger international interests. Our economies are so vulnerable to El Nino and La Nina on the Pacific, that it makes sense to unite 2 sides of the Pacific to counter the Pacific patterns between the 2.

From the feedback I am getting from Canada, they seem keener on the idea than we are. Australia is a smaller country than Canada; we are slower to show enthusiasm, yet with NZ, we have a balance.
Posted by saintfletcher, Sunday, 11 February 2007 1:10:45 AM
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LETS not forget poor old Tazzy.. we can include them also :)
lets bring them in from the cold.

Humor aside.. I think we should go further and include Pacific Islands. They are going to be Aussie citizens in due course anyway, because of rising sea levels. Lets pre-empt it and gain some valuable territory.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Monday, 12 February 2007 5:43:55 AM
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Some articles about the possible merger:

http://ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1170029462
Posted by freediver, Monday, 12 February 2007 9:32:33 AM
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It is all too late; The end of free trade zones is nigh.
I would give them 10 to 20 years maximium.
With transport fuel prices going many times higher than they are at present,
even ships which are very efficient fuel users will result in carriage rates that are too high
to compete against local products.
Air feight of course will be either non existant or only for very small very high value products.
New Xealand might be another matter as it is so close.
BTW, I see that sailing ships for freight are being designed again.

Everyone is running around bleating about global warming but cannot see
that they are about to be trampled by the elephant coming into the room.
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 12 February 2007 10:18:25 AM
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