Come come Belly, that's a bit of an over reaction isn't it?

Bernie is not a well kept secret you know.

He comes from a long line of right wing unionists, from the Santamaria side of politics.

I have not read (precisely) what Bernie said, is what I said, clearly I know what others have said he said.

I admire your stance on supporting your members interests with your own job.

Not many people would do that.

We are not far apart there, I resigned when I realised the leaders were really only interested in their next career step, and our members interests were not being attended to properly, but that was during the Kelty era, and all unions were engaged in selling-out their members in those days.... as they are still.

Belly, read your posts again. you are wandering my friend.
What has happened is totally interlocked. you are union so you are labor. If a union crosses a labor government it is treason end of story. If you want independence then let go of your power at the national conference and be separate to the party. Honestly you would do them a favour. and as for socialism the union movement would do well to remember that that is what they stand for.
So i loose respect by using my senate vote to place the greens in the balance. well i find that entertaining. The last two times that there has been a majority in the senate by one of the two majors it has ended in disaster. 75 saw a government sacked and 2006 saw a government out of control. If you don't understand that it is better for the country to have the senate divided than to have the majors rule you are way out of touch.
If you missed it earlier, i don't trust either major party and the union movement has done little to encourage support for the last twenty years either. It 's time for the unions to drop labor and find their own ground again and represent the worker rather than support the battle for power that has come to be Australian politics.

I'll drink to that nairbe.

No wandering in state conference a couple of years ago Bernie led the union movement,I from an other union followed, sorry about calling TBC DB.
That was the power sell of conference, it had been decided to sell NSW power.
But first,without reason,to put electricity prices up, TOO MAKE IT BETTER TO SELL.
Bernie, not my union, led us.
We voted strongly not to sell Morris the usurper who had stopped natural progression to take the leadership put the rank and vile up against the rank and file.
We won, then he said our vote dd not matter.
My lone actions in my job and the whole anti power sell off are evidence
Standing by while wrong is done , being afraid to say no my party is better than that,is weak.
I will NEVER back down greens harm my party my class and if we let them country.
Middle class Lefty's remote from the truth.

Good to see you back Belly.

Yes, the ALP leadership works in mysterious ways, in all states and territories, never mind councils, and end up looking, sounding and acting identically to the people they pretend to oppose.

That is why people vote Green, Belly.

The ALP has abandoned 'the workers', who these days vote Liberal anyway.

Education, which the ALP have never really understood any more than the Liberals,is what marks out Greens from others today.

The ALP socialist-left used to be the 'think tank' of the ALP, but these days those who might once have joined that cultish group now join nothing, or the Greens.

Bernie was right to oppose the sale of electricity, just as Bligh is wrong to have implemented the Hawke-Keating-Howard policies of selling off QR and our ports, forests and everything else not nailed down.

Like your 'guuuuuurl' down there, Bligh will be gone next time around.

The ALP is not interested in 'the national interest' at all. Most ALP seniors dream of private health, private schools, private gated communities, jetaway holidays, jam-packed super benefits not attached to failing profits like ours are, and an invitation to join the Melbourne Club, or similar in other cities, topped off with a cushy job or three as a director of something easy and socially acceptable.

Some, out of sheer guilt, join up as a minister of some 'faith' but none would dream of 'taking up the tools' because, of course, most senior ALP tossers have no idea what a tool is for, do they?

hit's the mark just right TBC.