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Victorian election and state politics

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Well an interesting result the ALP got a flogging no other words to describe it.
I a Labor member and supporter know, without doubt the next one to fall is NSW.
Then QLD is a lost for sure South Australia without near instant leadership change.
Yet I am not unhappy. the flat lining of green vote, the bravery of Liberals in not prefferenceing gets my applause.
There, in one post both greens and conservative along with some on my side are unhappy with me.
Is it bad for Federal Labor?
Should be the stick they need to distance themselves from greens.
After they take balance of power all too soon, we could have rule by less than 12% of voters.
Both non green party's should bring about a double dissolution election and just maybe my party can win that AJ, after Julia we will make ground go Bill Shorten you good thing.
Sorry bloke could pretend I like her but no way love my party too much to be gutless.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 28 November 2010 7:16:36 PM
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It could be federal Labor wins from these defeats.
Heard Bill Shorten speaking about the greens, it is true like it or not, more intensely dislike the greens than vote for them.
I think that could safely be said of both sides of the house.
NSW and QLD will fall because of dreadful failures but that failure may lead to a rebirth.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 29 November 2010 12:54:59 PM
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Come on Belly,
Look positive, is a one seat majority really a convincing win agains an 11 year government. I think not.
Yes labor need to take a look at what is going on in the electorate. A 6.5 % swing is big and hurts but really the liberals in victoria have no mandate and will be weak when a bi-election raises its ugly head.
This is typical of recent elections, people are tired of their long term elected governments but have no faith in the oppositions offering weak alternatives. What a couple of thousand votes would have given labour the win.
SA long time to next election, QLD we will see when election time comes, NSW well they deserve what they get. GEEZ i sound like a party man.
Agreed on two points, Greens on the nose they will need to do great things after June or they will go and Bill Shorten is potentially a great leader. Don't push though Belly, let him develop and in a few years yes. Right now it would be a wasted tallent.
Posted by nairbe, Monday, 29 November 2010 5:21:00 PM
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Nairbe know this I admire you, and love the ALP.
I also love the union movement.
We you and I,weaken our side of politics IF we put that miss used and abused word SOLIDARITY first.
Never cover our failures.
I think Victoria may have paid for my party's shaky response to this hung Parliament.
I am LABOR but not if its leaders and members betray my party.
We lost NSW the day Bob Carr left, only the conservatives kept us in power.
We are gone in QLD,nothing can save us.
Personal pride, and factional foolishness are taking SA from us, unless a new leader comes now.
But its not new it may well,should empower federal Labor.
A good farmer knows to renew a paddock that needs it first get rid of the weeds.
Renewal will after the wreck be good for me my party and the states.
I am afraid we have no choice, greens must be confronted [sorry]by both sides of the house.
My party lives or dies on its ability to combat them.
both party's, in every seat,should run sock puppets in an effort to control preferences.
Better still one vote one value.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 5:45:46 AM
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Belly:

In my Victorian Electorate quite frankly there were no strong Labor candidates running for office. It didn't give people much of a choice. The Liberal candidate was very well known in the constituency, worked very hard campaigning, raised local issues of concern to people and rightly won. In state elections, local issues do matter, and people do want to see candidates that live in the area, and know their area and the issues involved. Still a one seat majority is not winning by a landslide by any means. I just wish that I could persuade my son not to vote for the Greens next time. It's not that he's crazy about them, he just finds the two-party system not very satisfactory and the Independent candidate in our area was a bit sad.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 7:14:19 AM
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Hi Lexi

to help your son not vote Green(slime), you can see in this audio talk exactly how the socialist (green/labor) agenda to utterly destroy the nuclear family has played out in the UK.

This talk gives the year and the legislative change, step by step, and notes the social impact of such changes, all against a backdrop of a Christian perspective on the broader British political scene.

I don't know if ur Christian or not, but that won't matter in terms of the raw information. You don't have to agree with our ethics or faith, but if you value the nuclear family... this is GOLD information wise.

Labor/Left/Greens are all on the same page with this stuff and it is very very SCARY to see what has already happened in UK. Feminism is the driver along with the Gay lobby, both of which are expressions of neo marxism/communism.

http://www.christianheritageuk.org.uk/Media/Player.aspx?media_id=41713&file_id=44708

I recommend and encourage ALL to listen to this, because it is our own future if we are not vigilant.

Then.. aside from the morality based issues, there is the blatant corruption of people like myself (Gore) and how the Green Agenda is actually about Wealth redistribution. (see other thread about Climate truth)
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 8:28:09 AM
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