Just a few days ago( 8/11/2010) off the Coast of California,an ICBM left the ocean and headed for China.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/ See 'The California Mystery Missile' According to Gordon Duff this missile did not show any to the characteristics of a US ICBM.He was in the military and has an intricate knowledge of misslies.

So it seems China sees the USA and its allies as being a threat to world peace.Was this a message of a new global political awakening for the stupid West?

There is a new big kid on the block which the West through it policies of Globalisation have germinated.Why are we crying foul now when our dysfunctional Govts continue to destroy our living standards, and point at China the boogy man which they have created?

China launches an ICBM 30 miles off the Seppo coast? lolz. Yeah, right.

It's funny how they didn't even consider they might have been testing someone else's missile. Or developed a new one. He was in Vietnam, after all. That ended 40 years ago. *rollies*

Thanks for yet another great laugh, Arjay.

Jon Stewart put this one to bed.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/11/jon-stewart-on-la-mystery-missile-a-lot-of-hype.html

Not through ridicule - although he does that pretty well too - but using the evidence of the helicopter pilot/cameraman himself, who stated that he tracked it "for ten minutes".

A helicopter keeping pace with an ICBM for ten minutes?

Seems that China might be powering their ICBMs with two-stroke outboard motors. That's pretty scary.

Arjay, you really do believe everything they tell you, don't you.

Arjay is in need of a holiday, somewhere nice and quiet for a while.

Well Pericles & 579 whose missile was it? Gordon Duff says that the gas trail was too dirty to be one of theirs.It was real and the US govt is pretending that it didn't exist.Either they knew about it and did nothing or worse news for their defence forces,did nothing because they didn't know.How can all this satellite tracking technology miss a foreign sub and it's missile?

These ICBMs can carry up to 15 nuclear heads.You two clowns are carrying on as if it didn't exist!

arjay, old mate as you must be aware it has not been proved to be a missile.
In fact the reverse seems to be true.
Stupid west?
So what do you want get a war started just in case it comes one day?

Belly,they still don't know what it is.All the aircraft have been accounted for.They are denying the reality because it makes their air defences look pretty ordinary.Where is the evidence that it is not a missile? Surely with their satellite tracking technology they could have followed its path.

If China or Russia launched a missile just outside their waters,do you think that they would admit to their incompetence?

I can't believe you haven't got it yet, Arjay.

>>Well Pericles & 579 whose missile was it?<<

It was not a missile.

Missiles travel at very high speed.

This did not.

>>Gordon Duff says that the gas trail was too dirty to be one of theirs<<

That's because it wasn't a missile that caused the trail.

>>It was real and the US govt is pretending that it didn't exist.<<

The US government accepts that the contrail was created by an aeroplane. It doesn't have to "pretend" anything.

>>Either they knew about it and did nothing or worse news for their defence forces,did nothing because they didn't know.<<

They did nothing, because it was not a missile.

>>How can all this satellite tracking technology miss a foreign sub and it's missile?<<

For the very simple reason that i) there was no sub, foreign or otherwise, and ii) there was no missile.

>>These ICBMs can carry up to 15 nuclear heads.You two clowns are carrying on as if it didn't exist!<<

The number of warheads an ICBM can carry is an entirely irrelevant statistic, Arjay, because this wasn't one.

Are you beginning to get the picture yet?

Which part are you still unable to grasp?

Posted by Pericles,

>Which part are you still unable to grasp?<

The bit that deals with reality.

Pericles,why are there no definite identifications to this projectile?The satellites that survey this planet can read a news paper in our backyards.I can see my car and boat from google earth and they have much higher resolutions to spy on their foe.Commercial aircraft do not have anywhere near this steep trajectory because it is too fuel consuming.They cannot explain it and are totally embarrased by this event.

Flight to Phoenix. What else do you want to know?

You still appear confused, Arjay.

>>Pericles,why are there no definite identifications to this projectile?<<

It was a commercial aeroplane, not a "projectile".

projectile n.

1. A fired, thrown, or otherwise propelled object, such as a bullet, having no capacity for self-propulsion.
2. A self-propelled missile, such as a rocket.

A passenger jet fits neither of these descriptions. It does, however, fit the description of the most probable cause of the optical illusion...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20101110/pl_afp/usmissilemilitary

http://www.smartplanet.com/technology/blog/thinking-tech/the-mysterious-california-missile-launch-that-wasnt/5646/

The real puzzle in all this is, of course, not the mistaking of a contrail for a missile. That is easy to explain.

What remains unusual is your dedication to the story that it is not only some kind of missile, but that the missile forms part of a massive conspiracy by the US government against the rest of the world.

Or maybe it's just you they are after Arjay. Have you considered that possibility?

Ah yes, of course you have.

Arjay you poor poor desperate bugga.... have a rest mate.. puh-lease...

Get help.

You are doing the exact same thing as you do with 9/11 mindless speculation.

ARGUMENT FROM SILENCE or SPECULATION.... you suggest from what 'some expert' that because it was NOT..... a US missile..then it HAS to be a Chinese one ?

Oh brother.... I guess I'll be seeing you at the loony end of the next Mind Body Spirit festival lining up to 'get a forecast' from "JasonSpirit" (man that bloke must be swimming in money now.. the line was 40meters long)

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AIR,have a look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcexeQwUU28
Geraldo Rivera who once described 911 truthers as nut jobs has changed his mind.See it on Fox News.WTC 7 is now revealed to be a controlled demolition.This was effected by and advertisement by http://ae911truth.org/ "Building What?" The truth which you and Pericles denied like Geraldo is coming out.Who are the nut jobs now?

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

An alternate take on building 7

R0bert

Good question, Arjay.

>>The truth which you and Pericles denied like Geraldo is coming out.Who are the nut jobs now?<<

Wikipedia recounts this tale about Gerald (his real name).

"In April 1986, Rivera hosted the syndicated special The Mystery of Al Capone's Vault, an ill-conceived adventure where Rivera excavated what he had been told was the site of Al Capone's buried treasure trove. Rivera broadcast live as the site was excavated, fully expecting to find a store of the former gangster's wealth. The show was heavily advertised, particularly on Chicago's WGN television station. A medical examiner was brought along for the excavation in case any dead bodies were excavated. The show was on air for several hours, displacing regularly scheduled programming, as Rivera's team penetrated the vault he was sure would yield the famed loot. Ultimately, the vault was found to contain a few broken bottles. Rivera held one of these bottles aloft for the camera and excitedly stated that it had once contained 'bootleg moonshine gin'."

Such an impressive career.

"The show ["Geraldo"] featured controversial guests and theatricality, which led to the characterization of his show as 'Trash TV' by Newsweek and two United States senators. One of the early shows was titled 'Men in Lace Panties and the Women Who Love Them'"

"In 1987, he hosted the first of a series of prime time special reports dealing with an alleged epidemic of Satanic ritual abuse."

"In 2001, during the War in Afghanistan, Rivera was derided for a report in which he claimed to be at the scene of a friendly fire incident; it was later revealed he was actually 300 miles away."

You asked "who are the nut jobs now?"

Errrr, how about... Geraldo Rivera?

You need to pick your friends more carefully, Arjay. See if you can find someone with at least a modicum of credibility.

Get real Pericles.Geraldo is playing the game.He has been cornered by the scientific truth of 911 and now is trying to deflect the attention away from the real perpetrators.We know Geraldo is a mouth piece for the 911 cover up and he and Fox News are taking the initiative so when the truth does break,they will be on the front foot.Geraldo would not be making these comments without the authority of Ruppert Murdoch.They are having an each way bet,just in case all the truth really comes out.

So Pericles,what is Ruppert's plan?

Ruppert is a money spider. censatialism sells. Without readers you have no advertisers, i wonder how many coppies sold, are fudged figures.
With arjays around there will always be readers.

That's a very quick u-turn, Arjay.

>>We know Geraldo is a mouth piece for the 911 cover up and he and Fox News are taking the initiative so when the truth does break,they will be on the front foot.<<

You usually carry on pushing your fictions a lot longer than this. But on this one you "turned on a dime", as they say.

>>Geraldo Rivera who once described 911 truthers as nut jobs has changed his mind.<<

So, whom are we being asked to believe in this instance? The Arjay who states categorically that Geraldo Rivera has changed his mind? Or the Arjay who asserts that this is simply Murdoch covering his bases?

Today is Wednesday, Arjay, if that has any bearing on your decision.

I have to have a slight giggle of their explanations Arjay, I mean if anyone could misconstrued a Vapour trail of that of an Aircraft jet proportion to that of Hydrazine and liquid oxygen Rammed propulsion of the mentioned missile (Guided)- Must be very muddle headed to confuse the two.
But did you know that in December last year , here in Sydney , we had our own missile launch over Sydney , and even after a few friends had called me , thinking it may have been a bird strike through the intake ; At that altitude , the only bird would have been superman.
But even to this day, do you think even when some have official channels; to hear of what it was – maybe a tried explanation – even a Theory of what , was there an explanation or even a slight hint to an explanation; short answer is NO.
But I love the vapour trail storm cloud theory hehhehehehhee.

The evidence certainly is piling up, Arjay. Here comes All- on his trust steed, ready to do battle with the unbelievers...

>> I mean if anyone could misconstrued a Vapour trail of that of an Aircraft jet proportion to that of Hydrazine and liquid oxygen Rammed propulsion of the mentioned missile (Guided)- Must be very muddle headed to confuse the two.<<

Can't help but agree with that. I think.

But it is a little short on detail as to who is actually confusing the two. After all, even your "expert" confessed that the trail was too discoloured to be confidently identified.

>>But did you know that in December last year , here in Sydney , we had our own missile launch over Sydney , and even after a few friends had called me , thinking it may have been a bird strike through the intake<<

Now we have people confusing a missile launch over Sydney with a "bird strike through the intake".

>>But even to this day, do you think even when some have official channels; to hear of what it was – maybe a tried explanation – even a Theory of what , was there an explanation or even a slight hint to an explanation; short answer is NO.<<

I expect they did actually search for the charred remains of that unlucky bird, but gave up. Then they couldn't bring themselves to admit such an egregious failure of due process, and pretended that nothing had happened.

Whatever next?

We'll have people confusing a missile launch over Canberra with a bicycle tyre puncture on Lake Burley Griffin's towpath.

Actually, that is almost credible, comparatively speaking.

We cannot have you agreeing with me Pericles, heaven forbid it; you might actually say something intelligent or constructive for a change , a paradigm unthinkable that is exclusive to you.
Searching for the remains of a bird after destroying a jet engine; yes Pericles, your little world and it probably was one of those Marx/Engels roast pidgins flying into your mouth.

Yes indeed, what next.

Pericles,trying to twist my logic will not save you.The truth movement is enormous world wide.You must by now know the scientific evidence of controlled demolition.Either you're a fool or one who lives in denial of reality.

The neo-cons have been caught out and now are seeking war as their escape.They are prodding North Korea in the hope of creating a crisis,thus suspending what few rights and freedoms we have left.The USA is 14 times more armed than its greatest rival.North Korea like Iran,do not want war.

Under our sedition laws,you can be gaoled indefinietly without trial or legal recourse on the mere suspicion of being a terrorist.

Arjay I found your *do not twist my logic *
And truth movement lines entertaining and unbelievable at the same time is all a member of your group.

Fortunately, Arjay, I do not need "saving".

>>Pericles,trying to twist my logic will not save you.<<

And I don't need to twist your logic, when you do it so well without my assistance.

>>The truth movement is enormous world wide<<

Define "enormous".

>>You must by now know the scientific evidence of controlled demolition.<<

There is none. It is merely an unsubstantiated hypothesis that requires complete suspension of disbelief on every single practical issue. Starting with "who would want to do this?", working through "why would they want to do this?", right the way through to "how the fsck did they actually accomplish this?" At every step along the way it is necessary to buy into one conspiracy theory or another. Which I, and the vast majority of two-legged carbon-based life forms, refuse to do.

>>Either you're a fool or one who lives in denial of reality.<<

Define "reality".

And have a great day.