INDIVIDUAL, stand by your words, show me My bias tell me why you have none.
Belly,
In your case not so much a bias but something rather less flattering. In my case I have lost & continue to to lose everytime Labor makes a major policy change. Not to mention the increases in registrations & rates.
Anyhow, no amount of evidence will make you admit that Labor religiously stuffs up. NBN will prove no exception.

We are falling here in OLO, maybe in the country.
Once I was proud of the way we could speak about politics,we no longer can.
Your inference individual ,,that I am not intelligent enough to know, that is what it is,drags me into ground I do not wish to walk over.
Aussie males however can not avoid conflicts like this,even if they know it would be better to walk away.
Bloke I doubt you can understand this.
But your words again question your understanding not mine.
Do you truly think,any one with an opposing view is wrong?
You not me put a charge you now agree was wrong in to this thread.
You after seeing my reply said it was not true.
This mornings trip to OLO has more than one needless confrontation, more than one insulting of the opponent, for? thinking differently.
However bloke you again and again show me in posts you are not capable of insightful unbiased comment.
And that you give no value to free speech, truth, fairness, after a time ,after trying for so long to let you find a mirror and look in to it mate you are not the fountain of knowledge you think you are.

Belly,
No one's said that anyone with an opposing view is wrong. What I am saying is that someone who refuses to acknowledge mismanagement & misappropriation is wrong. NBN is a 43 Billion Dollar gamble & sensible people are questioning the viability of this spending. I haven't heard anyone to be opposed to NBN only the amount of Taxpayers money being spent. I for one find it far more pressing to improve services like water, transport, health etc rather than make it easier for frivolous internet downloading to get even faster. Also as I stated before, a faster internet will also speed up the misuse of it & also aid the criminal elements even more. I'm sure when Malcolm Turnbull is expressing his opposition to the plan he is talking about the widom of so much taxpayers money being spent rather than oppose improving the network. My concern is that our society has now become so dependent on networking that whenever a breakdown occurs they're just utterly at a loss. Just look at your average check-out when the power goes off. Is that how stranded we want to be when networks fail ?

Belly,

That you even claim to be slightly unbiased is a joke. Your unwavering support of the NBN is mostly due to it being a Labor vote buying exercise.

That it will improve telecoms is not in doubt, but neither is that this could be done using other more appropriate technologies for a tiny fraction of this cost.

While the voters thought this was a great idea at election time, already, as more information emerges, its popularity is waning.

INDIVIDUAL read only your last three posts, then mine, your hook is firmly in your mouth.
Your words convict you.
How after reading those posts can I not think you your self are unable to be believed in any post.
Shadow Minister, you know that is silly, you understand the NBN has just started.
On what evidence do you claim over spending? or any of your wild UN focused claims.
You do understand do you? I at least have done some thing you are not brave enough to, given my party a bashing often.
IQ is not related to education, but your posts, those that do not give me the right to think as I wish are at the lower end of the range.
Do poor fella you truly think my comments are from biases? then read my post before this one it may help you.
I think mate you are in need of some advice, I believe your self confidence is miss placed.

Isn't it amazing how things can happen so close to a debate. I only mentioned a network failure earlier on & this afternoon the lines went down in our community. There were quite a number of customers at the shop just standing around waiting for the re connection. Just imagine if that happened in major industry or during one of those celebrated internet surgical operations ? Is there a plan B for when NBN is down ? Or is that an optional several billion dollars ? Have we passed the point of no return where thinking & practical action is required in such a scenario of network failure ? I don't suppose even the most vehement supporters of NBN would dare to suggest that NBN is beyond breakdown. So, what is plan B ?