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Families struggling with grocery prices

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How about gas and electricity? with huge increases due largely to provisions for a carbon tax.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 25 October 2010 5:15:58 PM
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Have a look at Coalition policies you might find the answer there given they were first to come up with an ETS.

You can always go off the grid.

With the penchant both the Libs/Labs have for privatisation we might all have to go self powered. Candle anyone?
Posted by pelican, Monday, 25 October 2010 6:03:47 PM
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Shadow minister,
The increases in gas and electricity are state based increases and are justified as a need to invest into infrastructure. Only liberals claim they have had anything to do with an ets or carbon price. these would simply increase it further.
On of the reasons i went on the grid was to rid myself of the spiralling gas price. Even with the recent increase my power bill is still less than my old costs of gas, fuel for the generator in the work shop and maintenance on the equipment. We have cheap energy in this country but it would be nice if the increases were justified by advances in environmental standards and real costs rather than lack of investment and state government mismanagement.
Posted by nairbe, Monday, 25 October 2010 6:20:50 PM
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just to note...re/this infastructure...they are claiming..to be building

its a pipeline..to deliver gas to gladstone..[for export]..!
[govt..serving its mates]..

and another-one.;.heading east..for the coal seam gas..[thats killing the underground water_acces]...as well as poluting it..with benzine/diesal..again for mates

its a neat trick...buying govt..to build things FOR you
[and then slip in..a bit extra..from that ...for their generous public-service..pension/sceme]...

65 billion debt...its insane...[just for qld]
[thats why they shut down..ol barnaby..who tried to talk of it]

and because its..'state-debt'..it doesnt even count as..'sovereign debt'...[yet its still..the people..who must bear the burden]..

hang em high/they collude treason

[and we are in war...the people are just..too dumbed down to know it]

do you have any idea..how much we put on credit-cards?
or if not you...your kids

big crunch comming
why...because all money..is created by lending*
the only way we can pay it back is by lending more

[or by others defaulting THEIR debt]...and re-paying..cents on the dollar...while your savings..get inflated out of egsistance..[not yet...but read the entrails]

assets are overvalued...globally

a billion dollar buyout here...means someone..needs to pay the intrest
[once the bankers stop printing..{easy}credit..on their computers,its game_over...

and each day..spreads the differential
between debt...and the intrest charges...owed

[and even govt must pay intrest..on every penny of spending]

the money..we pay them ...isnt new money...
its repaying the old debt[plus intrest]..

thats how come the 12/bankers..took control of the fed reseve...treasury..and the mint..[were..{ie govt}..is bankrupt]

[ie the snowey-river/ww1-ww2.. war-debt..ord/river...
its all still not paid for...[its that ursury...built-in]

why ya think john howhard..sold telstra for...?
to stash the public/service-supper..safely away...
for when..we all go bust..

just like..the new internet..will never be paid off..[in full]...
we will be in the streets..well before then...
screaming..'no more new taxes'...

[when we should be saying..'take back the control of the fed/mint/treasury...and yet again..issue our own money...

like we did..in the good-ol days...intest free]..debitor pays

by the way...sir joe..had a good point

its time to feed..the chooks
the best ..money-saving trick..there is

[fowl..in the back-yard...eggs...bug-eaters/fertilizer
and eating the young roosters]...

yeah..time to feed...the chooks
Posted by one under god, Monday, 25 October 2010 7:06:26 PM
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*W and C are great ones now for forcing you to buy more with 2 for $5 or 1 for $3,59.*

Paul, they are not forcing you to do anything, but giving you an
opportunity to save. For it costs a supermarket about the same to
put you through the checkout, wether you spend 50$ or 65$, but
their fixed costs are amortised over more goods, so they pass on
that cost saved.

Supermarkets regularly have loss leaders, where they actually lose
money, to attract you through the door. Anyone can run a bit of
a pantry at home and simply buy regular items when they are on
special.

This week Coles had rump at 9.99, I bought extra and stuck it in the
freezer. Toilet rolls at 50c a roll were not bad value either.

The thing is, Samsung is correct. If we analyse things over time,
today people spend something like 10% of average income for food
costs. 60 years ago it was more like half their income. Perhaps
food is now too cheap, for Aussies are commonly becoming too fat.

So let me compare values. Last week I took my 3 mutts to the vet,
for their vaccination. She gave them a worm pill too. The bill
was 300$ for the three. Sheesh, if only I could buy the vaccine,
I could do it for alot less then that.
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 25 October 2010 7:57:51 PM
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Yabby "Anyone can run a bit of a pantry at home and simply buy regular items when they are on special." - sure do and love the difference.

I get my meat from Super Butcher, again buying in bulk when they have their best deals. The quality is far beyond what I'd become accustomed to.

I've also got a Golden Circle outlet shop not to far from here. Sometimes some great specials.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Monday, 25 October 2010 8:20:45 PM
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