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Rob Oakeshott for sale?

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I can not remember the last time I agreed with with anything Shadow Minister wrote.
I found no content jockey wrote I did not agree with, while understanding it could have been put together better.
Nairbe,in one line expresses my views brilliantly.
Shadow Ministers last post here is full of fluff and feathers.
It overlooks real storys of past coalition members.
And for no other reason than spite, no word describes it better, against a man who denied Abbott government.
I SM with no reserve see blind confrontation that is not a split hair different from conservatives single policy.
And it was threads like taming of the shrew, coalitions way forward is confrontation, sleeping her way to the top, the fallacy anger in Oakshots electorate.
Snout in the troff need we go on, further reference can be found by clicking the little man under Shadow Minister post reading the last well balanced [unlikely] 100 posts, let your own words judge you mate.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 18 October 2010 5:41:56 AM
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Belly,

I take it that your personal attack on me means that you cannot refute any part of what I said, a little hypocritical coming from a one eyed Labor supporter such as yourself. A token chiding of your beloved party does not make you in any way balanced.

Also, I don't see much difference in our views on nuclear power, abortion etc. In spite of our differences I hold you in greater regard than the empty vessel that was Jockey and is probably now Tboy.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 18 October 2010 8:42:18 AM
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SM it is odd that you are accusing others of a one-eyed opinion. Belly might be a strong ALP support but he does acknowledge at times a number of problems particularly within the NSW ALP.

I have yet to see you offer the same insight or degree of impartiality as regards the Coalition, particularly on this sham about the independent audit and costings. Nor the fact that the Coalition disingenuously accuses the ALP of creeping socialism when there has never been as great a shift towards neo-liberalism by the ALP particularly under Rudd - which suggests a more centrist leaning than a Left leaning.

It never pays to insult the intelligence of the electorate nor assume that a blatant lack of honesty and integrity has slipped past the populace. The fact that we are two-party system dominated is the only reason why both the Coalition and the ALP can get away with this stuff. That does not excuse it.

One thing is certain about Rob Oakeshott, and to a lesser extent Tony Windsor, is that he will be hounded and targeted during the term of this government by the Coalition for what they perceive as treachery. So we should also keep an open mind on what is actually said and why.
Posted by pelican, Monday, 18 October 2010 9:16:32 AM
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Pelican,

I have never claimed to be unbiased, however, Belly seems to think that because I am an ardent Coalition supporter, that this means the information I post is incorrect. Unfortunately this is not so.

The facts are from reliable sources, and while my view of them can be argued, the facts are the facts. Belly has not even tried to refute them, probably because he cannot.

When you stab your ex colleagues in the back, you had better be sure that your own house is in order. Electoral donations are an ethical minefield, and RO has at least been careless in not scrupulously separating his donors from his political actions. The ethical cloud hanging over his head is entirely avoidable, and entirely of his own making.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 18 October 2010 12:08:49 PM
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Hi, just a point of information. TBoy does indeed appear to be a sock puppet of "Jockey". He has deleted his account so there is no other action for me to take really. Thanks for those who drew my attention to him.

Graham
Posted by GrahamY, Monday, 18 October 2010 2:50:11 PM
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ShadowMinister
"I have never claimed to be unbiased,..." - I am not disputing your loyalty to the Coalition and we all have biases - no problem.

I only ask you as a fellow citizen if it is in the interests of democracy to hold only one Party to account?

Would you be beyond criticising the Coalition should they commit a faux pas no matter how big or small, no matter if in ignorance, intentional or conspiratorial?

I agree that RO and other independents should be held to account like any elected Member of Parliament however the system works best when all players are scrutinised. Just saying is all...
Posted by pelican, Monday, 18 October 2010 9:52:18 PM
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