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Rob Oakeshott for sale?

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Tboy,

Are you another resurrection of Jockey? All you seem to do is follow me around and slang me off.

I have not directly accused RO of corruption, but here are the undisputed facts:

RO been referred to ICAC, and it is openly admitted that lobbying went up as high as the PM, and RO has tried to get the tender board's decisions overturned following substantial donations from a small contractor.

At very least RO is guilty of gross political naivety. Even if the contributions and lobbying were both unrelated, RO has conducted himself in a manner that suggests completely otherwise. As a MP where integrity is paramount (an NSW minister has had to resign over a lesser matter).

There is a code of conduct that is required for people in industry and in politics to follow. All managers and MPs are taught it. Managers can, and are fired for not for strict adherence to the code of conduct whether corruption even existed.

RO ignored this code of conduct, and only he can take the blame for the resultant conflict of interest, and appearance of impropriety. If he was in the corporate world he would most likely be fired.

It is not only important what you do, but how you do it.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 16 October 2010 2:20:49 PM
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All I seem to do is follow you around? I checked my posts, and to date I have made 14 and 9 of them have not had anything to do with anything you've written. You're a strange one. I don't understand what you mean by your first sentence. What are you saying?

The only 'personal' comment you made in your post there that made any sense was that Rob Oakshott was politically naive. But with this entire thread you're implying a lot more than just that. You're implying that Oakshott is not honest, can't be trusted, is corrupt and is basically an unworthy individual. Pure, politically based, personal mud slinging from you.
Posted by Tboy, Saturday, 16 October 2010 2:57:13 PM
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Tboy even I noted your posts follow SM, Jockey came and went then came back as a sock puppet.
He rarely posted other than to cross swords with SM.
I miss posters like foxy and C J Morgan, but again say Oakshot by his simple action in supporting the ALP has made himself a target.
Well liked in his electorate he may be at a market day tomorrow he is that type of bloke.
In todays world of politics it is important to understand confrontation is not the only way to get a point across.
I am rather pleased, true, that any little ant hill is turned in to a mountain in trying to say those who supported Labor are evil,silly, wrong, corrupt , loving it .
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 16 October 2010 4:30:21 PM
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Ok I see, Jockey is someone who posts here.

So I'm not allowed to comment on Shadow Minister's posts? Five of my posts were in reply to him, and ALL the others had nothing to do with him. But that makes me some kind of stalker? Well, bugger this website then. I'll delete my account.
Posted by Tboy, Saturday, 16 October 2010 4:45:09 PM
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About time the name was changed to SHALLOW MINISTER. This post is same dog different leg action. Boring.
Posted by nairbe, Saturday, 16 October 2010 8:00:44 PM
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Tboy,

In all the threads that you have interacted with me, you have used the same modus operandi that Jockey did. That is not to offer a single worthwhile fact or insight to the debate, but simply to slang me off. I read your other posts and they are all equally vapid. Offering only harsh criticism without an attempt to add to the debate requires only the IQ of a squirrel.

Please feel free to convince us why RO's conduct was entirely above board. Dig deep and find comparisons with other MPs or even corporate examples. Otherwise you are just a disruptive child in the back ground going "Na Na Na Na!"

As for ethical procedures, if I were to issue a large contract at the company I work, even if I know that company A offers the best value, I am obliged to tender to at least 3 contractors, and be seen to administer and adjudicate the tender without favour. In 90% of the cases the tender is awarded to company A for the same pre existing reasons, and simply negotiating from the start would have saved everyone time and money.

However, if I were to ignore the tender requirements and go straight to company A, I would almost certainly be dismissed, not for corruption, but for ignoring procedures that preclude corruption.

All new MPs are inducted into parliament and given ethical guidelines. RO ignored these guidelines, and has created the perception that corruption might have occurred. This was entirely preventable, and of his own doing. It will taint his career and the company from which he received the donations.

By ignoring ethical procedures and entering a conflict of interest situation, corruption may not be able to be proven, but it cannot be disproved either.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 17 October 2010 5:49:22 AM
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