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Police and Tasers

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cant/you..feel[see]..
your/being intimidated

indoctrinated..into instant/mindles-compliance

mearly..the seeing of/a taser..
you will fear dying..[if they chos/to..use it..on you]

there is..a severe..law...of coersion..with threats and menices

there is no excuse for threat/nor menace..for those/
needing to/be seen..FOLLOWING THE-LETTER/OF THE..LAW
[cleaner/than/clean...lol]

to judge-others..YOU/MUST_BE..cleaner/than clean

[yet even..the police-commisioner..[qld]
recognises..two/percent of his..mighty-policing-policy/force..
are corrupt]...lets not/mention the..victorian..or gold-coast/policers

but the thing-is..here/are thugs
[claiming to serve justice]..yet feeling..confortable..with murder...[in company]

we have a 2 YEAR_OLD..vidio..
having been suppressed..for..TWO YEARS...how-come?

[who decided to keep the secret...
[a fellow..conspiritor?]

the letter -of/the law says..
they are equally-guilty
[accesory..after/the..fact]

policers..are very good/at..finding/charges for others
gaining confessions...by coersion/threat..
now they got yet..another tool...they-know..they can/use

shooting victims..in a police-station...was too obvious
for a start..guns need be handed-over..
stored in the gun locker..but seemingly..the tasers..dont

here we/see..the boys-own/club..using their latest/toy
a toy..that has so/far killed..hundreds/globally

not just once..or by accident..
but by..deliberated mob-intent..

to force-others..into compliance

to whom/much is given
much is to be expected

certainly not footballer/type..
omnipotant/adrenolin-based..ego

the judges..often say..to criminals
i must make/an egsample..of you
[and give you..jail-time]

but here-are..these thugs/claiming to serve/protect..
abusing their..commision..to serve...lol....justice

and worse/those watching..the watchers..colluding to cover...crime..over with/excuses and media pandering

lets bring-back the run-corpse
at least we knew..they served/their own adgenda..from the get-go

this stains...many..good and true
who soon/realise the rotted corpse..they are serving..and leave

[go look at the drop-out/rate

the good/true..that sign-up to serve
but soon leave..when they/see..
what/they-are..called to ser-vice

if its not..revenue/raising..by threat/force
its kicking home-owners from/their homes
protecting the elites..
while criminaling..poverty

bah...show me..a good-cop
and i will show you..one/
who does his duty..[and thats all]

not these..8/4..process-policy/policing..servers..
thinking policing is a 9/5 job
policing..road-rules...traffic-laws..

not the real-crime...like we/see...when the pubs/close
or our homes/..cars are stolen
or we are defrauded..via the web/bankers
or ripped of as a con-sumer

[or those poluting our airs/waters/minds
or charging..the earth..for basic service's

[and while..they/are sleeping]..

[..and the..while hospital-staff..are still labouring/..
in their true..higher-ideal/..calling..[service]

electocution..isnt what..we signed/up..for
thugs with guns...
now make their/point..with threat-of...electro-cute-ion

how/cute..boys
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 9:03:44 AM
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The taser is just another tool which can be used, on the scale of things its probably somewhere between the baton and the gun.
It would have been better to have used a taser, that day at Bondi when they shot that French looney, but since they were all out of it on cocaine they shouldnt be blamed for emptying a few clips into the chap.

The fact is, police work is mostly raising revenue through traffic fines. Consequently, violent crimes and theft are generally ignored. Lets face it, would you prefer sitting in an air conditioned van watching a revenue camera, or out dealing with drunk and abusive people...? They're only human after all, and so why do we think they are on some holy mission?
Posted by PatTheBogan, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 9:27:05 AM
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"They're only human after all, and so why do we think they are on some holy mission?"

It is simple, just comply with available policy, that is all.

Those who breach the guidelines are criminals themselves, an embarrassment to the force and bring the majority into disrepute. They should be investigated, charged and shunted out ASAP.
Posted by Cornflower, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 9:38:28 AM
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When tasers were introduced the "authorities" stated that they would be a replacement for pulling out a gun and killing people.
As I said at the time they would soon be being used at times where if the cop pulled his gun and shot someone they would be charged with murder. They were never a replacement for guns and were always going to be used to torture and force compliance.
Glorified bloody cattle prods for the sheeple.

How long before the crims get hold of them(or make their own, its extremely easy)and start using them in robberies or muggings?

They should only be allowed to be used in the same circumstances where pulling their guns and shooting someone is justified.
If they are going to have tasers they must be made to account for every time they use it the same as they would have to if they used their guns.
Posted by mikk, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 11:31:12 AM
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I AM experienced at dealing with the mentally ill…that’s what I do. And don’t have the luxury of the use of weapons like tasers, guns, batons or even cuffs or cells. So it comes down to personal presence and ability to cope with physically aggressive and potentially violent situations. The luxury I DO have is that my “back-up” is immediate and nearby, whereas the police travel in pairs, and two is only enough to get into trouble, not get out of it, and back-up is minutes away. A lot can happen in a few minutes.

You may think I have the luxury of drugs, but they take 20 minutes or more to work, if they work the first time. And even then, they will resist, so you are still in a physical confrontation of getting the needle into them, and having to restrain them. Two is not enough for the average sized person, to restrain so that no-one gets hurt. You need at least 4, preferably 5, and if they are bigger and stronger then about 6 to restrain someone unco-operative and violently aggressive, but no-one gets injured. I once looked after a guy that would not be escorted anywhere with less than 12 men. Damn, he was strong!

So the police have weapons and radios for back-up, but as I said, a few minutes waiting for back-up can change your life or end it. It’s easy to judge from our lounges, but when it is YOU that is confronted by someone brandishing a weapon and threatening you, and you are charged with protecting the community, then you are immediately in a Catch-22 situation of dammed if you do, and dammed if you don’t.

TBC...
Posted by MindlessCruelty, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 12:01:09 PM
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Also, with PC, you’re not allowed to initiate physical contact. But if someone is brandishing a weapon, to wait to respond, is to wait for them to use the weapon, in which case, it’s too late!! To disarm someone that will not freely relinquish their weapon, you must initiate physical contact to disarm them. But the law basically prohibits that, for now you are perceived as the aggressor by the unwitting observer. Of course, it depends upon the sort of weapon, person brandishing it, and situation, whether you would even attempt to disarm them, but the point being, there are circumstances where it is very appropriate, but to do so, you must be the initiator, not the respondent.

You never know how you will respond to the sense of your own life being in danger, until it is you in that situation. Heaven forbid that you should feel the responsibility of your job and duty at the same time to further intensify and complicate the situation with its added responsibilities. It’s a tough gig.
Posted by MindlessCruelty, Wednesday, 6 October 2010 12:01:17 PM
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