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Stuxnet Virus- Govt Created ?

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Cyber warfare is inevitable which is why governments spend money on organisations like DSD to protect information and protect from sabotage. Computer viruses will no doubt play a part in 'digital warfare' and like any form of warfare the risk is how it might effect the innocents in its path.

Iran's nuclear capability is seen as a threat so it is a natural target just as banks and financial institutions will be a target for financial profiteers or terrorists.

Government departments are more and more aware of cyber threats and there are strict policies in place including those secure gateways and other intrusion detection devices and anti-virus detection software.

Whether or not this one was government constructed is not clear but it is certainly possible.
Posted by pelican, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 9:32:52 AM
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"Well, derrr" Arjay.

>>The real worry for them is that hackers have a new generation of virus which they can now build on that is undetectable by our anti-virus programs<<

No-one would bother to create a virus that is detectable by existing anti-virus software. That would be stupid.

Not sure where you get your numbers from, either.

>>The stats initially show that 60% of this virus was in Iran<<

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/01/stuxnet_china_analysis/

"In fact stats from Russian anti-virus firm Kaspersky Lab suggest far more systems in India (86,000) and Indonesia (34,000) have been infected than the 14,000 systems hit in Iran."

>>It was clearly aimed at the Iranian nuclear facilities<<

That is one theory. Sounds eminently feasible. But this is just plain silly:

>>Wikileaks reported a nuclear accident in Iran which did not happen.They expected a nuclear accident due to the Stuxnet virus attack.This points to Wikileaks being a possible agent for Israel.<<

For the record - and you can easily check this yourself - Wikileaks made no connection between the "accident" they reported, and Stuxnet. In fact Assange himself went on record to say:

"Two weeks ago, a source associated with Iran's nuclear program confidentially told WikiLeaks of a serious, recent, nuclear accident at Natanz... WikiLeaks would not normally mention such an incident without additional confirmation, however according to Iranian media and the BBC, today the head of Iran's Atomic Energy Organization, Gholam Reza Aghazadeh, has resigned under mysterious circumstances."

Notice too, Arjay, that the accident was supposed to have been at Natanz, not Bushehr.

But please, don't let facts stand in the way of a great conspiracy theory.

StG, I think you may be on the wrong track.

>>Needs Freemasons though, I'm with TRTL on that one.<<

Today's lethal conspiracies require the Illuminati. Freemasons are mere amateurs.

I think El Reg should have the last word:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/01/stuxnet_china_analysis/

"In the absence of hard facts about the worm all sorts of wild speculation and conspiracy theories have flourished, including a surprising volume of discussions linking Stuxnet to UFOs and even suggesting it might be a prelude to alien invasion"
Posted by Pericles, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 9:43:47 AM
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Arjay, my reaction wasn't against the fact that you were indicating that the virus may be government created.

It was the way you hinted that it would destroy the internet.

I mean: "total system collapse"?

Sure, you can say that we need to be 'vigilant' but when you're vigilant about every little thing and say things like 'total collapse', then it enters the realms of fantasy, be it computer viruses or killer bees.

And then when you draw comparisons between Iran and the US, indicating that Iran is the lesser of two evils, well, I can't help but think about how the Iranian people marched on the streets against their leaders.

Until some were shot, that is. Not to mention the fact that gay people are hanged in public squares and their leaders call for Israel to be wiped from the map, including presumably, all the women and children who live there.

But hey, they're not 'neo-cons,' so it's ok, right?

Or this time, is it just a 'conspiracy' against Iran? Is it only a mere conspiracy when it concerns groups other than Israel/America?

P.S. Pericles, StG the Freemasons ARE the illuminati. Duh.
Posted by TurnRightThenLeft, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 1:06:00 PM
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""" and their leaders call for Israel to be wiped from the map, including presumably, all the women and children who live there. """

Will people please stop perpetuating that American/Zionist media, propaganda, myth.

Their leaders never called for Israel to be wiped off the map; including woman and children.

What they said was they wanted to rid the world of the radical Zionist element which have taken over the country of Israel, much like America just removed an abhorrent leader from Iraq. It's quite a big difference in case you hadn't noticed!

Those Zionists are a bunch of scum that have been killing innocent human beings for years and disrupting countries all over the planet over some fairy tale story of being the chosen ones, they are the true terrorists. Read the report just released about the flotilla massacre on the Gaza convoy. Those scum have been flouting International law for decades and the west just send them more money for Christs sake! Is it any wonder some might want this pox eradicated from our planet.
Posted by RawMustard, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 3:02:33 PM
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Wow, that's very ... Illuminating! .... thank you thank you, I'll be here all week. Try the veal.
Posted by StG, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 8:28:31 PM
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Since 911 the USA has been turning into a facist state.Habeas Corpus has been nullified with terrorists able to be incarcerated indefinitely without trial or legal council.Obama's presidential edict ie 'Preventative Detention 'allows for suspected terrorists to be detained indefinitely again without trial.

Are we stark raving stupid? This is Nazi Germany re-visited with the masses being etherised by Murdoch media lies and Hollywood distractions.

The Zionists have done to Israel what the Nazis did to Germany.This time it is being justified by AGW and over population.Only the chosen people will survive this self imposed holocaust.
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 10:44:22 PM
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