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The Forum > General Discussion > The lunacy of Ir laws raises its ugly head again.

The lunacy of Ir laws raises its ugly head again.

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ending the above I clearly remain with pride a Labor voter sins and all they are far in front of conservatives.
But note no conservative can be convinced to talk of their failures.
IR laws ,no way any laws have changed in relation to meal breaks.
The basic is this 20 minute smoko is a paid meal break taken about two and a half hours into shift.
Lunch except weekend can be half hour or hour it is not paid mostly and extra time is added on to cover it unpaid.
Many variations exist as both boss and worker do deals.
Some, a great many,take a break while work continues in construction some do not eat until a process's done, concrete or hot mix 2pm or 3pm for lunch.
rechtub would have us believe its war at work rubbish,
Some eat on the run and do not stop others say lets get this done then knock of no meal breaks.
no union can isolate fools and idiots from work.
ask your self this, if a human put their meal break before this case who is running the show?
if my hairy chested rough nut construction workers get the job done before taking a meal how did rechtub find this stone to throw?
if any one who worked in my team in my leadership days did this I would see it never happened again and tell the bloke how to find the nearest dole office.
still if you hate unions and workers that much the thread served its purpose.
DRAGONS rechtub.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 2 October 2010 6:28:43 AM
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I never was a public servant I left 115 sick days untaken and worked a 27 hour day once and many in high double figures
no easy job being part of the death and destruction on the Pacific highway as it once was.
Individual truly,debate is about open minds and it is about truth it bloke is a way to sometimes find we are both wrong, but talking with you is like entering the Melbourne to Sydney bike race on a bike without wheels.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 2 October 2010 6:41:05 AM
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we are unique and belly
We would all agree that there are literally millions of emails sent via work computers each and every year.

Now, if the majority of people do in fact work through their break, which I doubt, my guys always get their breaks, is it then fair for them to complain about the lack of breaks, yet continue to send texts and emails during working hours?

Simple answer would be nice.

And belly, I have the script here for the big game mate. Remember, defence does not win fainals.

Neck and next for the first 40, perhaps 6 all, then, at about the 5oth minute, when the dragons are puffed from all their defending, carney, pearse and anansta will carve them up. It's three against one, as you only have soward.

Roosters by at least 13 points.

The saints will panic as they have never won a final in their own right, but have become seasoned brides maids.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 2 October 2010 6:43:42 AM
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Now, if the majority of people do in fact work through their break, which I doubt, my guys always get their breaks, is it then fair for them to complain about the lack of breaks, yet continue to send texts and emails during working hours?

No it is wrong Rechtub obviously unless an emergency with children or an issue with children and/or family.

For 18 years I have worked in honesty, 12-14 hour days; paid only for 7-8 hours. School holidays off on occasions non-paid. Most workplaces are more than happy for me to get the job done in my own time [free to them].

My choice over the years regarding job satisfaction. I still feel it is wrong though, on behalf of others, who are unable to take a break at all, yet wages are deducted for their non-breaks.

However, I comprehend why the uniformity and laws were put in place years ago for employees.

Back to the point, in my line of work dealing with emergencies one cannot take a break at work unless there is someone to cover, usually there is not. Always short staffed.

Few people would walk away to take 'their break' during emergencies. Some people not valuing the work they do or staff who have simply had enough of working in two positions covering for everyone over a long period of time perhaps observing others 'taking their breaks' over many years.
Posted by we are unique, Saturday, 2 October 2010 11:24:07 PM
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rechtub no once not ever have I sent other than work related e mails during work ours.
Emails are more often used as a way to get work done in my area.
I feel every time you launch in to a hard one sided view of life I have met you, been in your shop.
But no it was two other blokes old cranky blokes who saw the world via a hole in a fence .
First IR laws did not do this, are you saying do not need them?
Todays workers are far different from the ones who won the 40 hour week, so are the bosses , do you wish to return workers to the days that saw unions formed.
Or to kill the industry that is based on leisure time?
Dragons by 15 never in doubt see you here to talk about it tomorrow.
PS
totally true, a boss never knows what his workers think of him if he is too harsh.
more often than you think the bloke who says my door is always open is despised by every one.
the bloke who thinks that but does not push it down their necks is often respected by every one, including the union.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 3 October 2010 6:17:02 AM
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WAU>>For 18 years I have worked in honesty, 12-14 hour days; paid only for 7-8 hours

Yer, right, pull the other one!
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 4 October 2010 7:16:52 AM
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