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A man and his dog - Who owns who?
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Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 23 September 2010 7:10:55 AM
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Read or watch, "The Loved One", and then watch "Best in Show". You'll get a laugh from both. The world is a crazy place, overflowing with crazy people. Vive le difference!
Posted by MindlessCruelty, Thursday, 23 September 2010 10:34:31 AM
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"if the dog won't eat the food, change the dog"
Too many people think pets are dispensable. If you have an animal, you need to look after it. It's the I own you, what can you do for me mentality that is problematic. I think "over the top" treatment of animals should be encouraged. It beats the careless disregard of pets. Although I would support the idea of a balance. Posted by Nicnoto, Thursday, 23 September 2010 10:54:11 AM
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Must... control... fist... of... death.
Sorry. People talking about their desire to enslave animals for their own personal gratification and enjoyment continues to annoy the bejeezus out of me. http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/10000/5000/100/15118/15118.strip.gif Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 23 September 2010 11:22:21 AM
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Oh god. A bloke makes a joke, & immediately we have animal lib covering the page.
Go easy people, didn't you read the title of the thread? I can sympathise with the idea. I'm getting on a bit, & really would not mind downsizing somewhat, if only I could. 20 acres, with 1 3/4 of those in the garden is a bit much these days, but my kids have other ideas. I still have 2 old show jumpers my eldest left behind when she went to uni, although it was 4 back them back then, 11 years ago. Have you ever tried to bury a horse? I have 2 dogs, the old one was my sons, the younger my youngest daughters. The younger one frightens the electricity meter reader, so I have to have her locked up when he's due around. Then there's the 3 cats. The old one came back when her age & incontence made her unable to live in my youngsets unit. The second was bought as company for the eldests cat, but came to me when it was made into a punching bag, by the older cat. The youngest was a stray kitten that wandered into my sons guarage one wet night, when he was home on convelesant leave. He flew up from Sydney with it, demanding I take it when he was posted back to sea. Then there's the birds, only 2 now, & the goldfish. I think those fish must be breading, they should not have lasted so long. Those call centre people wonder why I laugh hysterically when they offer me a cheep holiday. I had to get No2 daughter to come & mind the menagerie when I went off for a single night. So you are right Rehctub, I know who owns me. Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 23 September 2010 12:51:29 PM
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Hasbeen,
The guy asked for our opinion and I gave mine, my apologies if it wasn't light hearted enough. Posted by Nicnoto, Thursday, 23 September 2010 1:17:44 PM
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Dogs have been mans mate for century's.
From our days in the cave. Enslave? gee that is a silly thing to say. If we did not live together most dogs would never exist. rechtub it is a harshness often see in you, focused here on dog owners. My dogs,two both mini foxy crosses both female and desexed own me. Food is a problem, this breed are very fussy eaters, I would gladly spend a lot to get the right food. Maybe you should be looking at another income for your shops. I am loyal to one butcher, he however can only offer lamb necks as dog food. Mine will not eat the best unless I am eating it. Pet shops charge $3 per bone! $17 for ten pigs ears. Now I spend much more but feed my mates bacon bones. They love it for about a day. Visitors coming maybe I should tell them eat it or starve? Posted by Belly, Thursday, 23 September 2010 6:00:18 PM
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Dear rehctub,
I would love to have a dog again. I grew up with them as family pets but my husband says "No!" because we're still working - and I do as I'm told. (joking). I know he's right, because they need to be looked after properly. I don't remember feeding our dogs anything "over the top." They ate rather well though and were healthy. I agree with you that some people's behaviour regarding their pets is a bit strange - I watched a program on TV recently - where dogs were dressed up like small children - even with jewellery - which I agree is taking things a bit far. But to each his own, I guess. As for who owns whom? That's a good question... I remember my first puppy which mum brought home one night after work, and told me, "Because you've been so grown up about things, I think you're now old enough to have this," she said. "Go ahead and open the box." My hands were shaking with excitement as I opened the box. There inside, looking at me very quietly, were two big brown eyes, belonging to a black puppy, with a white patch over his eye. "For me?" I gulped and turned to look at my mum. "Yes, he belongs to you!" mum told me smiling. "I think I'll call him Patch!" I said, looking at mum. "You're a lucky little girl!" said my Gran. And I knew I was, as Patch jumped up and licked my face. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 23 September 2010 6:51:48 PM
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Great thread Rechtub.
When you genuinely love your pets/animals, one will try and make their lives as comfortable and enjoyable as possible. Last year a girlfriend of mine asked if I would take on two elderly small dogs that were destined to be put down. At the time I stated no, given I was in transit mode. I acquired a home last year and the dogs moved in with me [outside]. A year later, I love these dogs profoundly, they have been the quietest, most well behaved and intelligent beings I could ever have been gifted with. They only bark when someone is near the place and are not 'yappers'. They eat everything put in front of them and thank me afterwards,which brings tears to my eyes sometimes, [am a strong person so do not think me a sook]for the sole reason that they think it is a treat to eat their meals they depend upon to live! Their previous owner, [a lady] died and when I first met these dogs, I could see heartache etched in their eyes. Now, several years later, there is a light or happiness reflected. I feed the little treasures a "my dog" each of an evening, left over dinner scraps [meat and vegies], no bones to choke them though, and leave two large bowls of fresh water under cover daily in case one is accidentally knocked over, and a bowl of dog nuts/biscuits to munch through during the day. I am apprehensive to give them bones at their age [their teeth may fall out]? They are not overweight as they are still active throughout the day. They enjoy a regular hair cut and wash; prancing and running around excitedly and relieved afterwards. These dogs are eleven or twelve now and I am wondering how long they have with me? A year ago, I was adamant that there would be no more dogs or other pets, as I have had a lifetime of looking after my childrens pets for 20 years. Now.....I am truly blessed and most thankful that they have come into my life. Posted by we are unique, Thursday, 23 September 2010 10:36:35 PM
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Interesting responses.
Now consider this. Many older folk turn to dogs for company, and that's great. But, when they stand there fussing about what they want for their dog and I say, "do you have grown up kids", to which they say yes, I then say, "so did they have to eat what was on the plate or go without", of cause they also say yes. Then I say, "so why do you treat the dog any differntly" You should see their faces. This may alarm you, but the most loyal and obidient dog is one that gets treated the harshest. After all, they live in a 'master and slave arrangement' and if you're not the master, they will be. It's natures way. They either lead or follow. To them, there is no middle ground. Posted by rehctub, Friday, 24 September 2010 6:41:19 AM
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I disagree rechtub.
The harshest way of treatment usually leads to loyalty out of fear. When they are treated with firm and consistent commands, delivered in a calm rational way, they respect the owners dominance and form a loving bond, one which is more loyal than any derived from fear. A happy dog is a loyal dog. Having said that, there is a balance and they usually eat what they are given if you are consistent with giving it. If not, then change the diet, animals know what is good for them, if the food is not nutricious enough, they will have reservations toward eating it, they are attracted to food by the smell, not so much the taste, as long as it is highly nutritious for them and smells attractive they are generally happy to eat it. Most pet owners find that their pets own them, that is the responsibility, due to the fact that they have pets for companions rather than "slaves" Nature does not have a master slave arrangement. It has a dominant figure to lead the way to survival. You will notice wild dogs still show affection among the pack, there is no slavery there and there shouldn't be in a domestic pack. Posted by Nicnoto, Friday, 24 September 2010 9:17:40 AM
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I love my two King Charles Cavalier spaniels unconditionally.
They give me a great deal of love and joy. It is a well known fact that having a pet has a positive effect on human's health- especially their blood pressures. People with pets are far less likely to spend time as a hospital inpatient. Pets love you unconditionally- not caring what you look like or how well off you are, where you live or how you live - unlike many humans I know! It is also a well known fact that people who dislike all animals, or ill-treat animals are far more likely to end up in the criminal justice system as violent offenders. Enough said! Posted by suzeonline, Friday, 24 September 2010 9:59:29 PM
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Please rechtub do not buy a dog.
My dogs are not pink, they do not have jumpers or coats they smell,,, like dogs. I get very wet washing them and they try very hard to find a cow pat soon after. I dislike breeders manufacturing dogs that never should have been bought into this world. in a long ago thread I spoke of my lost loved first small dog Skeeta. She was with me for 5 years. I bought Sky in a pet shop, as a pure breed ,she cost $350, and is a cross breed. Blue came after as Pound puppy she too is cross breed. Skeeta and Sky both sat with me after a very bad fall, both bought help all my lifetime dogs gave more love that I could give back. My dogs must never threaten others[humans]and may never run without me being with them, others who fear dogs have rights too. Posted by Belly, Saturday, 25 September 2010 6:22:16 AM
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You simply would not beleive the amount of fuss dog owners show when selecting food for their pets.
"Not that bone, I want the other one", like, do you really think the dog is going to think, gee, I wish that bone was a bit better looking. You're kidding!
I often say, "if the dog won't eat the food, change the dog"!
And to think some of these owners are responsible for some of the rat bags of society we have to deal with on a daily basis. Yet, they treat the dog like a god.
Do you think pet owners (an increaing number of) are going over the top when it comes to the treatment of their pets, esspecially considering many of them are struggling to survive themselves?