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We're going over the cliff - in style!

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"The planet's ecosystems are in terrible shape..."

This is just fanatical doomsday religious doctrine.
Posted by Jefferson, Sunday, 12 September 2010 6:44:38 PM
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jefferson/quote..<<The planet's ecosystems are in terrible shape..."

This is just..fanatical/doomsday religious doctrine.>>

hey easy on the religious...think zeal-ot
like greenie/left-wing..fanatics

calling us holow-caust..deneyers
for not believing their fear/spin/propaganda
to bring-in the new tax

a clue lies in those who couldnt deliver/the new big-tax
the wrong-penny..got finance..[how obvious is that]

and the gar-rot..who lives in a mansion
great-mates..with..al-l-gore
heavilly invested in certain carbon/trading firms
runs..education...

re-education..that taught/us..the lie-of evolution
out of genus..which has never..been recorded,
,nor observed..nor is able to be replicated..
thus isnt a propper-science..
only a god-less/theory

we get sold so much...spin..from the ozone-hole
[that was said to desertify/australia]
to the bird/swine/flue..sars..aids..the list of govt scare propaganda..runs deep

we have the lie of smoking causing cancer[while caners is ever increasing..and smokers have halved..and asbestosis,runs rampent

[while we base this on docters..reporting..a cause of death
not exposing the real-cause..of the disease..to wit diesal-particulate..wood-smoke..and benzzine..that was dumbing-us down
while benzine is a known car-sin-ogene]

its all a huge/scam,..run it through a test-group
then sell us on the most logical-reason..to justify..their new law..or new tax..

or new vacination..instant..bacteria/mutagene]
[that also is mutating-our children..into imbisility[..autism]

that the elites..are doing
is scandalouse

that we elect[give..govt members..de-facto-''powers..of attourinity'
to act in our collective/best-intrests..

while they/actually are doing service to the boys-club..big..multinationalistic..[duel pasport/holding..fat-cats..escaping..the worlds/hell-holes]...

to do treason here..thats beyond reason..or treason
its criminal...

but they sell off public assets..while doubling its price
just to put...their volentary-supper..in a safe-place
while making compulsory-super..contribution..lol
ours..under-pin..the scam..
bying..up their mates..faulse promises
Posted by one under god, Monday, 13 September 2010 7:52:41 AM
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Dear nairbe,

"Surely you see that by the use of robotics and computerisation into the future the elderly will be able to maintain their independence and dignity for longer before a human carer would be required."

Yes, I do see that....I also see that the same innovative society that would provide a non-human entity to assist the elderly to maintain their "independence" and "dignity" is also the one that isolates and segregates them in the first place - what's dignified about that?
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 13 September 2010 8:19:01 AM
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Dear Ludwig,
did it never occur to you that it's not just about us humans? So as long as we're doing ok it must be right, hey? In any case we're not doing ok; oops, sorry, I forgot, you're only talking about the quality, who think they're doing ok (who are in fact neurotic shrunken heads)

Dear individual,
the vast majority of ignoramuses are just like you :-)

But hark, do I hear a human voice? 'Tis Poirot, spruiking the heresy that our elderly should be cared for by non-robotic hands.
You do realise, Poirot, that such radical recourse might negatively impact the lifestyles of the carers? I imagine it will come down to economics; in a free market it will come to down to who's the cheapest, robots or bozos on the minimum wage, perhaps we should let our loved ones choose, so long as it's economic.
The real worry with the elderly is that we can't somehow get them to turn a profit, I mean given their increasing numbers and all. There's a valuable resource going begging there that some entrepreneur is sure to light upon. I foresee a future when the elderly will be intensively farmed by cheap robotic technology, scrupulously humane of course (or at least a simulated version thereof).
Unless those bloody Lefties intervene with their radical ideas. Unconscionable idiots!
Posted by Squeers, Monday, 13 September 2010 6:39:51 PM
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Hellow Squeers

Not sure I get your drift.

Could you please elaborate a bit and I'll engage you in a healthy friendly discussion.

Thanks
Posted by Ludwig, Friday, 24 September 2010 9:37:19 PM
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Dear Ludwig,
I didn't read the whole thread when I posted, only enough to get peeved, including the article. OLO strikes me lately as mostly conservative and complacent, and in such a context I'm a pariah. Reading your posts now, I see you at least acknowledge we have major problems--though not necessarily the author of the article, who doesn't seem to mind that Earth might end up like Asimov's "Trantor"; a dead planet kept habitable for humans via technology, that is encasing the whole sphere in metal-plating and maintaining artificial life supports (for humans) within.
It's parochial and anthropocentric to suggest "People are living longer, healthier and richer lives" when this only applies to wealthy countries and is a major cause of species extinction. Moreover, we may be living longer in the West but our lives are neither "healthier" nor "richer". So-called mental illness, in its myriad forms, is the modern plague and our lives are impoverished in any qualitative sense. We are estranged from nature, addicted to trivial sensation (commodity fetishism), culturally homogenised, and devoid of community spirit. Modern man is proof that evolution is arbitrary, in our case signifying degeneration rather than what in our conceit we call "progress".
What really irked me, I think, is that you and the author seemed merely infatuated with the "paradox" of human "prosperity" (as I say a misnomer in any case) but indifferent in any ethical or humane sense beyond anthropocentrism. Still others didn't appear to even care about their own kind; robot carers for the elderly and an expectant extropianism, as if technological transcendence is the only hope for bestial humanity, rather than its simply practicing moderation and sustainable economy (but these of course are anathema to a system that depends upon excess).
And while Individual blames it all on ignoramus lefties, I see her "Three solutions .... War, decease or birth control" as callous at best and fascist at worst.
Posted by Squeers, Saturday, 25 September 2010 3:16:12 AM
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