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The Forum > General Discussion > We're going over the cliff - in style!

We're going over the cliff - in style!

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Ludwig Wrote:
""" And yet, at the same time, human well being has never been better. People are living longer, healthier and richer lives. """

It's all a temporary illusion. The richness you're experiencing has come at the expense of others sacrificing their quality of life so that you can live the illusion that yours will always be better. For every Australian who's life has improved, there are literally millions dying and suffering for you.

The ratio of people who's lives have improved to those that have gone the other way is increasing in case you haven't noticed?

The constant screaming about the environment and sustainability is all about scamming people into giving something up so that the rich can have more for themselves. What you're experiencing is the exponential growth of disciples prepared to spread their poisonous religion!

There's plenty for everyone if the selfish rich would accept a little less for themselves and begin to demand ways of recycling more and improving the way we do things. If they would just relinquish their grip on technology through their BS patents, copyrights, government sanctioned monopolies and stop indoctrinating our young through their propaganda machines, we could move forward and improve everyone's life including the planets!

This is what you should be harping about and not your constant whining about population and BS global warming.

We have the means, we just need to instill the will on the rich, not the poor!
Posted by RawMustard, Friday, 10 September 2010 4:17:30 PM
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Animals tend to live longer in zoos than in their natural habitat too.

I suppose it comes down to quality versus quantity in years lived - but we are becoming more and more powerless to have an effect on one of these factors.

Also, this "living longer" is not a world-wide phenomenon.

Our extra years may well be at the expense of somebody else's.
Posted by wobbles, Friday, 10 September 2010 6:08:39 PM
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Climate change is part of the planet's makeup. The present change is merely sped up by industry & warfare. Instead of another ice-age every 10,000 years we now get one every 8000.
I only hope Anna Bligh isn't going to hit us with an early ice-age tax. I wouldn't have enough money left to buy coal for heating.
Posted by individual, Friday, 10 September 2010 6:24:10 PM
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Dear Ludwig,

What does the future hold?

Some foresee a new era of scarcity, in which economic
growth would be replaced, at best, by economic
stability - and at worst, by economic shrinkage.
Others, are highly optimistic that we can continue on
our present path, relying on technological
innovations to solve problems in the future as they
have in the past. But predicting the future is a risky
business at the best of times, and to project highly
complex trends for many decades into the future, when
one cannot be aware of subsequent technological and
other factors that might affect them, is not a very
reliable way of making forecasts.

If data on agricultural production a century ago had been
used to project trends into the 1980s, they would have
pointed to global mass starvation. But the introduction
of new hybrid species of high-yield grain and highly
mechanized agricultural techniques have greatly
increased food production in a way that could not have
been anticipated.

Nobody denies that the planet has a finite amount of
resources or that it can tolerate only a limited
amount of pollution. If world population continues
to grow rapidly, if industrialism spreads around the
world, and if pollution and resource depletion continue
at an increasing rate - the most optimistic answer to
where is human society headed? would be that, one way
or another, sweeping social changes await us all.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 10 September 2010 7:35:20 PM
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Climate change or not - I think it's insane to be digging up our non-renewable resources at an ever increasing rate and pretty much turning them all into junk that will eventually become landfill.

At this rate the following generations will have a lot more to worry about than the effects of climate change alone.
Posted by rache, Saturday, 11 September 2010 2:12:34 AM
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your wrong...jardine
we are all created..in gods/image
thus deserve to be respected...
yes even those decievers..who lord it over us

everything has its cost/price
the demon-moc-rats...
who allowed how-hard..to give-us..the gst[shaft]
are no longer in politics

we hear/much..ado..about budget/honesty
but there is no honour..in poli-tricks

its the two/party-line..all the way
run..by auto-crats..to serve..the rich..to get richer

thus we saw..mr..how-hard..first remove..'death-duties'
ending in the big-new GST-tax..sold us via focus-groups
its a grand-scam..

how it was played..is by shutting-down
news-papers...and bying up..the visual media
[seems if we see it we believe-it]

so mr..how-hard..only had to be seen..doing/normal..things
like walking...seemingly..alone..without fear
for us to think..he has a clear/concious

see how he sold..telstra[telecom]
then put the proffits...we all paid..for
into super..for him..and the public..sir-vice

its a grand/deception..of horendous proportions
it runs globally...it hinges on sport-destractions
fund..the local footy-team..and they man..the voter-booths
[one-hand ..washes the other]

see more than half of parliment..is or were lawyers
[they are used to taking-orders/are used to working..for criminals]
but in being sworn/loyal..to the british-law..society
shouldnt..even be allowed to vote..let alone..be elected

see how/media got all that free-spectrum
keeping the public..destracted..by police-style..enter-taint-ment
fear inducing consumerism..gossip..star-power..cooking and sport

its al very-neat..fot those lawyers..creating laws
then former lawyers[now..judges] judging the laws
but the laws..are for the person..not the coorperations

[who dont like paying taxes..on their income..prefering we pay taxes..on our meager..wages..see wage/income..are two different-things]

see how we fill their courts
and the coorperations..get a great deal..
plus no regulation
they self regulate...

and we are over-regulated
by such things..as drug-laws
or trickey...moral/policing...see in law..there are two forms

criminal..[where there is an in-jured-party]
and civil/law..[where there is a contract]
we been tricked..by the lawyers/into creating..contract

see a contract..is created..by sig-nature[sign/here]
make..your mark...[its the mark of civil.cooruption..not the beast]

see we apply..for a licence
[licence..is permission..to do-that..other-wise..deemed illegal..[under the act]...and by applying..under the licencing act..we fall subject..to all acts...

[we signed..created a uni-lateral[but enforcable-con-tract]...
we begged for a licence/advantage..
and got..what we begged for[serfdom/slavery..bondage
but its all..immoral..unconstitutional

but in criminal..or civil...the constitutions..dont apply
we have equity-courts..meaning it volentary

ever notice..our names are in capital/letters
[in caps means..its a coorperation...ie a fiction..we bought into]
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 11 September 2010 3:17:31 AM
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