Wow Belly. You'd rather an Abbott government than a Gillard minority government?

I knew you hate the Greens, but I hadn't realised how much. I'd point out the falsehoods in your latest rant, but we've been here before plenty of times and the truth doesn't seem to make any difference to you when it comes to the Greens.

You really need to lose the hatred and start thinking about "moving forward", so to speak :)

I was a member of the ALP disillusioned with the way the party machine dominated decision making I moved to the Greens. No point in going to the liberals - a friend of mine who was on the Liberal State executive resigned from the Libs at the same time for exactly the same reason. So the Greens it was. Got involved got to know the party and discovered that like its big brothers the Greens too had their party machine - not as well oiled but really no difference - the rhetoric of inclusion was not matched by practice.
Disillusioned I am looking for a new illusion maybe a parliament where everyone behaves like an independent?

Good grief C J Morgan hate? no never fear is what drives me.
I am not unique you know, those I work for the ordinary country people fear them too.
BAYGON I am a refugee from my branch, you will see that in posts from 4 years ago.
Fact is politics is mathematics, numbers only numbers.
Right now my party is in deep trouble.
My home, the NSW right, has mucked about with NSW the home of Labor victory's.
Long forgotten the power they have is not theirs , it is the power of numberer's voters members each grain of sand they stand on wants better out comes.
C J Morgan I believe Abbott, his team, the tainted Australian media are not worthy to govern.
I fear the FACT we are judged by media owned by an ex Australian ,maybe driven by him, would like to say more about him.
But for every one leaving us I think we lost one to conservatives who think as I do we are too close to pushing Browns barrow.
If we had a DD election ,IF Abbott won, it would be a one term government, if the senate lost independents ,even if your mob held[with less than 15%] the balance of power the party, my party reformed and lead by real talent would Be intact.
IF we sell out to your mob, if we do not tell our ex members how they will never get the dream time world you promise then we are not worthy to govern.
Hate come mate my first thought it for this country greens are radical and lost .

Dear Belly,

You are a loyal soul to the Labor Party.
I think during this election in particular it has been difficult for you to form a philosophical idea as to the issues that have turned people off Gillard's campaign.
I believe for many "thinking" voters, it comes down to a sense of principle and the fact that the two major parties appear to represent the same interests. The Greens are seen to still have some scruples and an interest in equality of treatment for all individuals. I had great difficulty accepting Gillard's hastily concocted East Timor Solution - for several reasons including our attitude to our poorer near neigbours and the fact that Labor had spent a goodly proportion of their time in opposition criticising Howard's similar agenda...am I supposed to ignore such things.
As far as our defence ties with America go - after watching Mr Howard obsequiously courting that dangerously inept president and consigning Australian troops to contrived theatres of conflict, it is good to have someone Like Bob Brown to at least speak out when he sees us unquestioningly falling into line with our major ally.

Belly, thanks for your honest response. However, fear and hate aren't mutually exclusive - indeed, the latter is very often the product of the former.

Your fear is misplaced. The Greens aren't your enemy - indeed, they're about the only hope that Labor has for a future. Have a great day, and don't fret too much, old mate.

This election result, a hung parliament, was decided by a mere several thousand voters.

Australia has NOT spoken. The people who HAVE spoken is that tiny, tiny number of people who have swung marginal seats one way or the other.

That's one problem with democracy; governments can rise or fall on the votes of a mere handful of people.