The problem is that Mr. Abbott and his supporters do not know they have not won. Labor has not won also. If any party has won, it is the Greens. I like to think the voters have won. A government made up of more than one party represents more people. The only thing needed for this to work is to have respect for all members of the parliament, not only in your own party.

Do not the rights of the Greens and other minority parties have any merit? The present system of winner takes all does not make sense. You are saying that only one party has all the answers. I am old enough to remember Mr. Menzies not being to proud to steal policies from Labor after elections. Mr. Abbott would be better at looking at what can work instead of what he destroys. It is not about whom, what is right, or wrong, it is about what is the best way to do it. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

Whether it works depends on whether the media is willing to give it a fair go. Grow up, sometimes change is in our best interest. The two party system is being found wanting. Statesmen can make it work. If it can work in most other western countries, surely we are mature to do so,

Listen to what the independents are stating. They appear to be agreeing with Labors policies not the Coalition as being in their best interest. The message they are giving is that it is about stable government not parties. It is time we grew up and come into the modern age. We should be glad to see the end of the two party systems. As for the allegations against the GG, it is insulting to say she cannot make up her own mind. The woman has a long and independent successful career. Would they be saying the same if she was the father-n-law.

Dear Flo,

You've summed things up in a nutshell, and
done it beautifully.

Echoed my sentiments, and I'm sure those
of many others.

The next couple of weeks will prove interesting
indeed.

At the risk of being seen as a gloater, for two years I have said that the only reason Kevin prised off the rusted on Christian vote from the coalition, was that he was a practicing Christian. Self delusion does not win elections, and the self delusion of the Labor Party that Workchoices was the reason 23 seats shifted camp in 2007, saw them make a fatal mistake.

This election will be won on a handful of votes, and that handful will be church attending Christians. It seems that Hasluck and Brisbane will go Liberal, the coalition will have about 72 seats, and the Independents will have five. I am including Tony Crook from Kalgoorlie, in that five, as he is acting as an Independent, and will give his vote to the one who looks after his electorate the best.

If Almighty God wanted a result he got what His followers asked for. We need an honest government, and an honest government is Christian. The Christian God keeps his word, and so do Bible believing Christians. An honest government, unlike the one just not returned, would accept the Australia Act 1986 is an oxymoron, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights is in fact Australian Law, enacted in 1986, as Schedule 2 to the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission Act 1986, made an element of a crime in S 268:11 and 268:12 Criminal Code Act 1995, and unless the lawyers of Australia, 30 of whom, including Bill Shorten, Nicola Roxon and Julia, were in the Labor Party in Parliament accept that truth, they are not fit and proper people to hold power.

Tony played down his Christianity, and did not flay Julia for her atheist views. Any lawyer who does not understand the Christian roots of good government derive from the Holy Bible is unfit to be a leader. When the independents give their word, they will keep it. They will take their Oath of Allegiance seriously, they are all fine men in their own right, and the Constitution as a Christian document, will ensure stability

Nice if Abbott would let us see those costings.
Not much doubt why he will not the feeble excuse is a lie,he knows why he will not do it we know too lies are not policy's Tony
Lets get grounds for a DD election and only that will save us, even if conservatives win

ok..lets/get..a few things-straight

the greens...doubled..their vote?
they claim/a swing..of 3 percent?

so any..who/REALLY WANTED...a price..on carbon..
[the greens..were the only ones/..talking about that]..
runs at arround 10..to 12 percent

the libs/got say 2 percent increase...with/no..carbon price
labour..lost a few percent..by delaying..the cap/trade

there were over 1,000,000...people
who voted informal..[1/5..or 1/6 th of the voters..who regesterd..]
these people VOTED..non/of..the abouve..

ie NO TWO-PARTY/machine-men
no global/tax..no 'green'-jobs..built on deceptions..lol

we have a chance..for change
[to go forward..with the FACTS]

WHAT HAS THE ABBOT..to hide
the libs..SET_UP..the system..
THEN FAILED TO OBEY..their own scam..!

while we-are..at it..this 'leak'...that has downers/name..ALL OVER IT
no doudt/fully..bugging the pm's rooms is a cinch..if asio..has one..LIKE that..treasury-guy...who was leaking/to..the former/liberal leader

we have paassed through..the WORST..election/spin...EVER

we have seen..how the business/lobby..runs the power-play..via faceless/men

recall...when ol barnaby/..
fluffed his millions/billions
the media..made you miss his/..main point...debt...

note..sovereign debt..as such..IS HUGE...

arnt the states-debt's
sovereign debt..that falls onto..the taxpayers?
just as bad/..as federal debt/sovereign debt..does

the states/are in this up to their ex-gratia payments..for their masters

then there-is the free-trade..deception
and lest we forget..going gren..is what got spain into its death/debt..spiral..going green..sent them broke

lets say we invent...alternatives.[go green]
china build..much cheaper than we can

the only going green..that will work for us..is growing hemp[oil/fibre..fuel/food..over 40 thousand products from one plant]

and heaps of industries..
that spin-off..from the processing of a weed

we allready have the infastructure..laid for cane farming..hemp..works much the same/system...harvest it/process it..at the defunct cane-crushing machines..

form cooperatives...give each a fair share..
and when the foreign bankers come to steal it..dont sell-out

bah..we get the leaders we deserve
im just wasteing my breath

we got the govt..we deserve
those lawyer's..who swore oath..
to the law society..arnt really legally allowed to be in govt...

where is the sepperation of powers..
or the treason..of lawyers making laws..let alone their lawyers oath,,to the BRITISH..law society

then we get to the bankers/docters..[pill-merchants all]..
and lest we forget the booze industry,..killing off ausies on the roads..and main streets..

just so the govt can serve its mates..bah

Hi All,

If Abbot refuses to allow Treasury to check his costings then the only conclusion is that they are suspect. A recognised accounting firm but if the Liberals asked for it to be done and set certain parameters may have done them and methodology. These may be the areas questioned, leading to a much scrutiny of his costings.
Secondly, the two main parties need to realise that other parties need to have their input given sufficient weight and they should be treated with respect. I include other parties and Independents in this statement.
In the past, the two major parties have considered that theirs and only their policy are relevant. They have not truly represented their constituents or governed for the people of Australia. Government has been mainly catering for the big business end of town, including Mining. Even the small businesses have been largely ignored.