Dear Individual,

We all at some time of other get personal
insults thrown at us. I've had my share
many times. Even when I tried to point
out that personal attacks smack of intellectual
bankruptcy and have no place in discussion
forums, attack the message not the messenger,
I was occused of being the Forum "police,"
for several threads. As JR said - this is
the norm for discussion forums. It's to be
expected. Of course it's upsetting, but you've
got to admit, we've all reacted when the right
buttons are pushed, especially with highly
emotive topics like religion, and politics.

As for this coming election - well, it's only
a week to go, and we'll see what Australia decides.
As Peter Costello said, "The voters usually get it
right in the end!" And, as I wrote, if they don't,
they can try again in three years time.

Foxy,
Believe me it pains me greatly to have to resort to the level of harshness I often feel myself forced to go to. Unfortunately, by pointing out unpleasant facts some people react adversely as it is not what they want to hear. I'm no different, I too get worked up but I get even more worked up when people point blank either refuse to accept my point of view which is mainly based on personal experience. By all means if anyone believes I am wrong then so be it but I draw the line when my experiences are dismissed outright. How can I possibly make positive statements when the experience is on the contrary ? Is it really ALL my fault that my experiences with ALP supporters are not good ? I don't enjoy making negative statement after negative statement. I am for fairness & a better society but all I cop is thoughtless arguments for the sake of argument not for the sake of making things better.
cheers

Indy I read that post, then re read it, it baffles me.
Can you base your thoughts that I am unpatriotic on your personal problems with some from within my party?
I get angry try not to but do, I feel sorry every time I do.
Your experiences? what about mine? do they matter?
See I know this only the ALP shares enough of my views to make me vote for them.
Not all not even most but much more than conservatives ever have or will.
I want nuclear power think the ALP will change its mind.
I want BOTH SIDES to support bills in the senate so 2 useless beggars can not have more say.
I believe only the ALP is the party of change and that it is the one looking at this country's future.

Dear Individual,

Thanks for being so open and honest.
We all get frustrated when people
are rude and or dismissive. We all tend
to react when the right buttons are pushed.
It takes a large amount of self-discipline
and control not to react. I admire posters
that no matter what, they don't seem to
get provoked. Most of us just tend to do the
best we can, given the circumstances.
And I guess it's only natural to want our
opinions validated instead of dismissed.

You're certainly entitled to your opinions.
And after reading your explanation, I shall
try to be more aware of the feelings of
others (not only my own) in the future.

Belly ,
In my area 90 % of Public servants support Labor . Where these same public servants shaft anyone who dares to ask them to do their job & neither the ombudsman, nor CMC, nor public service commission, nor the local ALP member stands up to corruption, mismanagement & misappropriation. The list is too long for here. I now ask you Belly, do you expect me to ignore the wrongdoings just so these facts remain hidden from the wider community which actually forks out the funding for this misuse ? I'm sure you wouldn't keep quiet either. I'd mouth off just the same if conservative elements acted the same way. As a matter of fact I actually did report some incompetence during the Borbidge years & not even the ALP local member said anything. Why didn't he say anything ? Because most of the public servants would have ousted him for rocking the boat. That Belly is why I am so crook about the ALP & it's lack of integrity. Maybe in your area they're better but definitely not in FNQ.

Now Indy I gained much from your post.
Why it took me so long I do not know.
I saw the extremism in your posts but never till now understood you have other issues.
Guess your problems with public servants have been around for a while.
And you most probably understand both sides of politics employ them, the same ones.
Maybe if your concerns are old enough the other side managed when some of your issues came in to being.
I Will not rise to your baits again it is to me at least you do not have an extensive understanding of politics and may well be unable to see how truly simplistic your views are.
Get well mate.