Hasbeen... "I am horrified that many people on here have stated they will still vote labor in this election,".

But this is our system Hasbeen.

Of course, people could vote Liberal, or National, or any of the other far right political groupings, but they wouldn't do that just because they don't like Gillard or Rudd or an ALP policy would they?

If they vote Green, as I intend to, then the vote still has to be parked somewhere, doesn't it?

Ludwig is advocating a wasted vote.... well, that is just a wasted vote in the end.

My vote, even when used, is a wasted vote too, as far as I am concerned, since the Green candidate will get up to about 9%, the ALP about 30$ and the Liberals will romp home here as they always do.

In the end, I am only voting formally in the lower house to send the Greens some funding from my vote, assuming the candidate will get more than the required... is it 4%?

Swingers of course, are different.

They swing because they have no idea what they are doing...

Hasbeen walk with me mate.
As you know we do not like one another.
But being Aussies we do not wish harm to one another ok so far?
Now you infer I do great harm to my country for? voting Labor!
Outstanding, lets see so you on balance think only a conservative government will do.
And harass me for believing that would greatly harm my country.
I submit my party has much to make up, not for the big spend but for not having that DD election 5 ,months ago.
For the murdering of the ETS.
For the mining tax thing not the new one it is ok the idiotic idea Rudd had he was God could do as he wished.
I find Julia interesting but am unsure if she will be what I want.
I see no insightful looks from you into your side, it just never happens.
But has been I have zero self doubt your side if elected will damage the very fabric of my country.
Hidden under the nice guy blanket you are trying to put over voters heads is the real Abbott.
The man who tells us he lies some times who has gone through life with one foot in his mouth.
Hasbeen how can you? come tell me how, be so sure it is me who betrays AUSTRALIA and not you?
I grew up around rich country people who called England home and children Angus and Brangus, who thought people like me should hold hat over heart before addressing them, education is wasted on such.
Who ever is elected it will be the wish of voters you and I must continue to inhabit different worlds this makes me happy.
TBC wast your vote but once you would not have.

Belly, when will you get it? I am not a liberal voter. My upbringing was probably similar to yours. My father was as one eyed labor as you, if not more so. I have nothing against you personally, or labor.

I was lucky, had good teachers, was an honors graduate, & had a choice of scholarships, but otherwise was no different.

I have felt as disgusted with the conservatives in the past, as I now do with labor. Perhaps I am more disgusted with labor as it would be my natural choice.

I did not consider voting conservative, & I would never have considered helping them in most of the years after Menzies, when they were totally lost.

I felt sorry for Whitlam, when he took over an Australia which I knew was in a much worse state than most realised. I figured he had no chance of doing a good job. That he lost his way was probably caused by desperation after what he found.

Richardson lost me, & the continued use of his tactics has kept me lost. Until they trust voters enough to tell us something like it really is, I'll probably stay lost.

I am as poor as you. I chose to spend my life playing games, & deserve nothing else. However I would like to have a government that gives my kids, who are more serious than me, a chance to build the security they desire. Your lot do not offer that chance with their present policies, dictated by their vote buying.

Belly I reckon we want the same thing, but believe the opposite as to who will give it to us.

Sorry mate

you will see why Latham got a run if you look.
This mornings Sydney Tele is running its usual poll.
Like it stable mate Australia's national newspaper the poll seems unlikely to shed light on the publics view.
Today the question is who won last nights public debate or what ever it was.
Inviting you get the chance to say yes or no?
Not who won.
Now almost every poll has such problems, but these two papers actually stopped me voting Labor on some e issues?
74% we are told thought Abbott won another question? no an answer power is at work here.

But being Aussies we do not wish harm to one another ok so far?
Now you infer I do great harm to my country for? voting Labor!
Belly,
Precisely !

Indy please for give if I offend,it is my view nothing you post is worth considering.
Now if I thought as you do this great country would not be as great on Saturday one week and a day away I will stand giving out my party's form with your side there too.
No war of words, oh yes such as you will confront me and your team too, but no guns no hate just pity for blind such as you.
being a red neck Indy is not an honor being closed to all but your own thoughts is not.
right now it is unsure who will win, if I am on the wrong side I will have much humble pie to eat here but unlike you I will except voters wants and not be so bitter and ? well best not say but you should have more respect ,,,for your self putting that in print is extremely childlike.
Only Latham has made as big a dill out of himself this week.