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The Forum > General Discussion > A rise for the sake of a rise. But can we really affor it.

A rise for the sake of a rise. But can we really affor it.

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Greed warps some.
The thought that some should not eat well live well or even hope to leaves me wondering about mankind.
And that we need a low paid group to keep us well is so different than my way that it is beyond my worst night mare economic health before humanity?
Back to the caves then it is what we deserve.
But wait, in truth only the truly lost would support Boazy and rechtubs modern slavery stand.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 4:40:40 PM
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Have you ever thought the minimum wage is too low? It has not kept pace with living costs.

We can't afford not to increase the minimum wage especially when our country is facing issues with housing affordability, rising costs and the privatisation of retirement.

If we live in the 'lucky' country minimum wage earners should be able to receive a living wage as a basic premise. We have to make a choice about what we consider to be humane and fair treatment.

Where is your angst about excessive CEO salaries? Why are minimum wage earners always the punching bag for some of you lot. How dare you consider low wage earners greedy when all they are trying to do is care for their families in the same way as anyone else.

Sheesh...people never cease to amaze me.
Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 5:21:24 PM
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Wages go up so then costs go up

The more something costs to make here people will just keep buying from overseas.
This will be the destruction of manufacturing.

Just look at the ETU
They call fair work legislation just like workchoices.
It also said that they would not be endorsing labor, but will more than likely go for the greens as they are in bed with labor anyway.

So in effect can the workers actually afford to keep their jobs.
Posted by tapp, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 5:49:54 PM
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The 2010 minimum wage in Australia is $15.00 hr.
The average is;
Tasmania $55,103
South Australia $59,223
Northern Territory $61,771
Victoria $62,748
Queensland $63,866
New South Wales $65,707
Western Australia $70,210
Capital Territory $75,348

Funny how one can't get figures on Public servants pay.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 6:30:28 PM
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Every employer thinks he/she is keeping wages cost down in isolation but eventually they must realise that they are cutting back the buying power of their own customers.

Most manufacturers move off-shore - not because they aren't making any profit, but because they aren't making enough profit for themselves.

The original Harvester Decision of 1907 ruled that wages "must be enough to support the wage earner in reasonable and frugal comfort".

In those days there were mainly sole wage earners for each family.

Now both partners typically work yet many still struggle on the minimum wage.

Perhaps Malthus had the right idea in that the poor should not be comforted too much because they were intellectually and genetically inferior and should be left to simply die out.
Posted by wobbles, Thursday, 22 July 2010 1:45:40 AM
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I would have honestly expected a post from the now dead Australian Peoples Party to have taken sides with low income earners.
Tapp are you standing this year? your voters are human too.
And for individual to have stayed on thread.
The thread starts with wages rise for the sake of a rise.
NO low income workers are those without agreements and the cost of living rise has given way to this rise, it is the only way they get a rise for the sake of it is silly!
300 factory workers? from what deep nonexistent place did that come from?
Most employers we are told by rechtub are small business men, with 300 employees?
Another says why not make it $100?
Are we to believe rises in low income wages create unemployment so we should leave them in the gutter?
Thankfully this thread is not Representative of most.
Most still think fair go Aussie is a worth while thought.
Most understand life is short building riches at the costs of a forever poor group is not worth it.
The wages of low income earners drive small business you cannot sell unless you have consumers.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 22 July 2010 5:03:18 AM
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