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Posted by AJ Philips, Wednesday, 16 February 2011 11:57:37 PM
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"It comes as no surprise to me that your six-day posting frenzy came to such a screeching halt at the same time I presented my arguments in a way that no amount of obfuscation, sleight-of-hand or sophistry would help."
It comes as no surprise to me that you would say that. A certain Trojan Horse is a more accurate diagnosis however. Nevertheless given the extended computer problem I don't have time right now. Hopefully I can get back to this next week. It is a surprise to me that Lexi is Foxy. Is that your guess or did she say it? It is surprising as Foxy is well liked by that handle and would hardly need to make a fresh start. In any case Lexi has gone away for two weeks and didn't seem keen about this thread so you it is extremely unlikely she will ever read your words "while an innocent person - who wasn’t even a bystander - was manipulated into the wreckage of your arguments..." It was nasty to disingenously communicate that type of stuff to a third party in order to get brownie points at my expense but it is a waste of time continuing as I may be the only one reading this and she almost certainly isn't. I know it is bunk. Careful or you'll start believing it yourself. Your comments indicate that you are quite clear on everything that happened and you would be fully aware that I originally was going to invite her on the suspicion she would be off side so stop wasting both our times. Posted by mjpb, Thursday, 17 February 2011 10:49:00 AM
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These things tend to happen at the most inconvenient of times, do they not, mjpb? Of course, with IT being my field of field of expertise, I’ve never actually had my own computer infected by a Trojan.
It’s a shame to hear about it though; a shame because I was actually giving you enough credit to assume you had realised that there is absolutely nowhere for you to turn other than to retract, obfuscate, vanish or perhaps offer a different line of evidence since your fine tuning argument has come crashing down in a heap. <<Nevertheless given the extended computer problem I don't have time right now.>> No, you never do when the going gets tough, do you? Allow me to give you a nickel’s worth or free advise to help speed things up a bit: If restoring your computer to working order is going to take any more than a few hours, then just back up all your data to an external hard drive and then re-format and start again. If you haven’t yet gotten rid of the Trojan, then download the scanning tool from http://www.superantispyware.com/portablescanner.html and then run a scan with that in Safe Mode. <<It is a surprise to me that Lexi is Foxy.>> Do you actually convince yourself of this stuff? It’s bad enough that you’re dishonest with me, but how anyone can do this to themselves is astonishing. It is this kind of self-deception that is a fundamental requirement for maintaining religious belief and a common trait amongst theists. Do you know how I can know that you knew Lexi was Foxy? Because I know you’re not a complete ‘head case’ and anyone who approaches a total stranger - who they’d never before had any communication with at all - in the way that you did, requesting from them what you did, would be a serious cause for concern and the following two posts, that were subsequently deleted, would have just been downright disturbing. Continued... Posted by AJ Philips, Thursday, 17 February 2011 3:06:38 PM
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...Continued
You continue your antics, seemingly oblivious to their transparency, then you use your questioning of my “hunch” as a way of casting doubt on my other more factual and demonstrable claims. <<In any case Lexi has gone away for two weeks and didn't seem keen about this thread so you it is extremely unlikely she will ever read your words...>> Whether or not she does is beside the point. They are not there for her benefit. <<It was nasty to disingenously communicate that type of stuff to a third party in order to get brownie points at my expense...>> I have no need to score brownie points with Lexi. If my posting history suggested an obvious desire on my behalf to do such a thing, then you may have had a point, but it doesn’t, so you don’t. You’ve simply disgraced yourself, and are not happy to go down alone, so you figure you may as well take the person who highlighted the fact down with you. What you did that day was out and out manipulation; you entered a debate with a token one-line contribution stating the bleeding obvious and showing absolutely no thought whatsoever, just so you could butter-up (speaking of “brownie points”) an unsuspecting person - who you knew thought highly of you - in order to coax them into doing what you wanted them to do purely for your own benefit. It was as shrewd and calculated as it was disgusting. And if you honestly think that you’re in a position to describe my pointing this out - even if I WAS trying to score brownie points at your expense - as “nasty”, then your social skills are even worse than what you’ve already demonstrated them to be over the last seven days. Sit down and take a good hard look at yourself, mjpb. This thread is only getting worse for you and they have a special word for people who continue to do the same thing expecting a different result... Posted by AJ Philips, Thursday, 17 February 2011 3:06:44 PM
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mjpb: <I may be the only one reading this...>
No mjpb, I'm sure there are many keeping up. Sorry, but I have to say, AJ's deconstruction of your nonsense has been a tour de force! Posted by Squeers, Thursday, 17 February 2011 3:16:38 PM
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mjpb,
Is anyone else reading this? I know George is because has given a link recommending others towards this discussion. His point I think was to show an example of the futility of trying to reason with a certain person. I haven't gone back to read all of the dozens of pages to see what you've been discussing. However, one thing I've noticed about some of the atheists on this website: when they accuse you of dishonesty and sophistry it's probably a sign that they're having trouble dealing with your agrument. Also, I've often wondered why anyone would think accusations of dishonesty and the like (on the basis of their mind reading capacities) would encourage further dialogue and understanding. Posted by Dan S de Merengue, Sunday, 20 February 2011 4:58:48 PM
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It comes as no surprise to me that your six-day posting frenzy came to such a screeching halt at the same time I presented my arguments in a way that no amount of obfuscation, sleight-of-hand or sophistry would help.
Good thing I decided to start investing a little more time and care in my responses. I probably could have saved us a both a lot of time and effort had I not been so impatient to slam my responses out so quickly before. Sorry, but I just can’t stand to see nonsense sit there unaddressed. Not even for a minute.
My apologies.
I had a feeling my final attempt to keep the thread going would bring your “busy” period to an abrupt end if I were to just point out that we were at a stage where no excuse, for not responding before the thread closed, was going to cut it anymore.
Although, you must’ve been suffering some serious OLO withdrawals considering the posting binge your comeback resulted in. You went on such a rampage, that we saw two posts deleted in the wake, while an innocent person - who wasn’t even a bystander - was manipulated into the wreckage of your arguments under the pretence that you didn’t know it was Foxy.
Disgraceful.
Any way, that’s enough commentary from me. I trust the ‘La, La, La, I Can’t Hear You’ factor we discussed earlier will ensure we cross swords once again after this has all blown over. Until then, I’ll leave you with a thought that so poetically comprises both the claim that started it all and the concept that brought it all down:
How is it that you didn’t have enough "faith" to remain an atheist, when the whole concept of probability is so unkind to theism to begin with?