SOG.. glad to know you have that kind of background.. dumb question but..'what do you do?'?

FOXY...

and imposing
an industrial-relations regime eerily
reminiscent of the Howard government's
deeply unpopular WorkChoices,

Now..that, dear foxy is one of the reasons I suspect that SOG calls some people 'simpletons'....

I don't know how brilliant one needs to be to see through the left wing smoke screen about 'workchoices' but they were not at all a bad thing, except to those who saw in them an opportunity to exploit them as an 'anti howard' focal point.

I still remember with vividness, standing on the steps of flinders st station, with 25,000 unionists all screaming and raging against 'HOWARD-WORKCHOICES' when they had not the slightest bit to do with the 1000s (in the previous week 1000 had lost their jobs at a car parts supplier) losing their jobs.

I managed to get myself attacked by a communist woman... feisty little biddy I must say.. but my message was irrefutable. "BLAME CHINA...tax slavery at customs" and no one even tried to argue against it.. except for the pint sized thrashing machine :)

Howards 'work choices' were not evil, damaging or harmful.
Even as I speak, I look with sadness at the faces of those who I know will soon be made redundant as the swing to chinese made parts reaches it's 'all that we can outsource' level.

People can whine about Howard as if 'workchoices' were the antichrist,
but in doing so, the temptation to call them 'simpletons and fools' looms high in one's mind.

Belly:>> Look at this thread, see the excuses already for a lost election yet to come.See the slur that idiots elect Labor.Understand the lost nature of some here.The failure to understand politics.<<

In reading your posts I discern that you are a "true believer", not a political fashion devotee as are the greens and chardonnay socialists. I do not know how you resurrect N.S.W. Labor, but getting rid of the right and their cronies will go a long way.

Belly, I will remind you of what Ben Chifleys Labor govt achieved;

* In 1942 the Commonwealth Government introduced uniform income tax (making grants to states to replace their taxes on income).
* Introduced a national welfare scheme and unemployment and sickness benefits in 1944.
* In 1945 he became Prime Minister.
* After World War II the Commonwealth Government joined the United Nations.
* It announced its objective of raising the population to 20 million.
* The War Service Land Settlement Act introduced the Soldier Settlement Scheme.
* The Education Act 1945 set up a Universities Commission for expansion of university education.
* The Hospital Benefits Act 1945 provided grants to States to subsidise public hospitals.
* The first Holden car was 'launched' by Chifley in 1948.
* The Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948 was passed.
* The Snowy Mountains Authority was commenced in 1949.
* The National Health Service Acts of 1948 and 1949.
* Chifley broke the national coal strike by sending in the army to work open cuts mines in 1949.

He was a humble man who never forgot he had been a train driver before he was a politician. Belly I do not know if we have this caliber of man and government in 2010, on either side. I suffer with you comrade.

SOG.. glad to know you have that kind of background.. dumb question but..'what do you do?'?

Al, all I can say is that I am a national guy for large concern, sadly I am still working, but as my bride says when I whinge, "you could be laying bricks".

Anyone who doubts the effect of Work Choices on low income workers is at best blind and at worst indifferent or in the "I'm alright Jack camp". It seems we are quite happy to let a whole range of people enjoy a lesser quality of life and turn a blind eye to excesses in the corporate camp.

Please remember the term 'non-core promise' and 'never-ever a GST' when thinking about the Opposition. Rembemer Work Choices was not even presented to the electorate prior to election and with balance of power in the Senate, it left the citizens with little voice on labour policies.

I for one am willing to give the ALP another chance (via preferences) over the Coalition. A Party that has made mistakes in regard to waste and lack of planning/oversight is less likely to go down that road again in the short term. Personally there is not much to differentiate them on broader economic policy but there is a lot more to lose with a Coalition led Government.

Holey moley! rehctub …now you’ve gone and dun it.
Belly ain’t gonna be happy when he sees this thread.

"Ginxy, I thought you were banned from posting, did OLO change it's mind?"
Posted by sonofgloin, Sunday, 18 July 2010 4:28:08 PM

I see you saw my message left upstairs!

The truthful answer is 'buggered if I know'.

As for your analogy, excellent.

"Hand in fire one time make big pain- hand in fire two time mean no skin all bone. Him all bone no skin one hand, unable vote,-so 'One Hand Boney' force use other hand put tick 'bove line. This am no worries, will make sure vote goes to needy. Everyone happy 'cept One Hand Boney who screamin wid pain".

Am understand-is help of great