Belly, I have not mentioned the present government, yet you always jump to their defence. Mind you, if I loved an organisation as much as you love labor, then perhaps I to would defend them at every chance.

The war. Did I not see you, in another thread, stating that we should not be involved in this war?

nairbe,While I have sypathy for this guy, the fact remains, he was where he was through his own actions. End of story.

To all, I am not refierring to the stimulus at all. I am referring to the ongoing wasted billions, from succesive governments. It's like a dog chasing its tail. Trouble is, we are the ones footing the bill, not the descision makers. They get rewarded regardless of whether they succeed or fail.

Seriously, if something is not done about the waste, there will simply be nothing left.

The stimulus package was totally unnecessary.All they had to do was keep interest rates low and not borrow from China.

It is the global reserve banking system that keeps most countries in poverty.They have the power to create money in their computers,thus depreciationg the value of our currencies via inflation.It is akin to us counterfeiting money thus diluting the value of everyone elses' savings or labour.Just 3.5% inflation depreciates our currencies by 40% every 10 yrs.Inflation is compounding like interest.Inflation created by the banks and our Govts is stealing from the people who really produce.

So if you want a better life ,reform the banking system or suffer increasing poverty.

Rehctub wrote:

<< yet, had this guy not been blind rotten drunk, there would have been no death in custody as he simply wouldn't have been there in the first place. >>

Nairbe wrote:

<< Rehctub, Your point maybe fundamentally correct but is none the less vile. Because he was drunk it was therefore his fault that he had his liver delivered a trauma so intense that it was almost severed in half. Don't even try to tell me that it was somehow this guys fault. >>

The fault clearly lies with Snr Sergeant Chris Hurley, who had a duty of care for a person in his custody, and who failed terribly to uphold that basic principle for Cameron Doomadgee, a man who had done nothing wrong of any significance. The suggestion that the death in custody was fundamentally the fault of the victim is pretty outrageous, rehctub.

Alright, now that I’ve got that off my chest, I’ll say;

Good thread rehctub. You raise a very important issue.

<< The war >>

Very hard to know what to do.

<< The boat people >>

Very easy to know what to do. Both Gillard and Abbott are on the right track, while Rudd stuffed up terribly.

<< …problems associated with indiginous communities >>

A whole lot MORE expense and effort is need there.

<< royal commision into that death in Palm Island >>

Not needed. The Crime and Misconduct Commission has found that the police were involved in a cover-up and protection racket for Hurley. A royal commission is not going to add much to that finding.

The stimulus package – a huge waste. Were the purported gains, as outlined by Nairbe, really worth the absolutely enormous expense, compared to what else could have been done with that money? Could those gains have been made with a much smaller and more focussed expenditure? Almost certainly.

And the most obscene waste of all: the baby bonus.

The majority of the waste is in the slack public service. If you ever get to see their efforts in sourcing, & purchasing you would see where lack of any real effort costs the tax payer millions.

Yes the pollies make half backed decisions, but in normal day to day spending, drunken sailors have nothing on our public servants.

What we need is a mandatory 5 year maximum employment term in the PS, so that all of them have experience in jobs where money matters. Only then would we start to see some efficiency.

The current system, where the job description is written so that only a public servant has any chance of being recruited for upper level PS jobs has real people locked out.

If it's not our war, whose war is it? There was no war until we, along with our allies, invaded Afghanistan. While I am certainly against the war as a whole, I think we need to take ownership of it.

Ludwig>> The suggestion that the death in custody was fundamentally the fault of the victim is pretty outrageous, rehctub.

I am not suggesting that the death was his fault at all. I am merely pointing out that had he not been arrested, he would not have been harmed in the first place. People must take resposibillity for thier own actions.

Our police force is at 'breaking point' and the last thing we need to waste this valuable, under funded resourse on, is public misconduct.

Now back to the thread.
You are all stuck on this 'stimulus plan'.

My thread has to do with 'all' the wasted funds and how on earth we can do something to stop this blatent waste of money that occurrs almost on a daily basis.

When I commenced work, back in the 70's, part of my taxes were to fund my retirement, not some far away 'un-winable' war, nor for funding the mostly 'non- working' of our community and most certainly not the illigal imigrants.

It's time to STOP WASTING OUR MONEY! It's our's, not the governments.