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Taking back our country

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"What's in a word? A rose by any other another name would smell as sweet." Foxy ,you dwell too much on the literal meaning of the tools of meaning,rather than reading between the lines.

What say you about the real perpetraitors of poverty in our financial system who steal via stealth,ie counterfeiting our currency? Do you understand this reality?
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 12 July 2010 9:48:57 PM
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Dear Arjay,

I understand the reality only too well.
We lived and worked in the US for close
to ten years and it was quite an education.
It also inspired in me a thirst for knowledge.
And, an awareness that it isn't enough to
condemn. One needs to look critically at
motivation, circumstances, context, or any
other consideration before one can make
intelligent judgements. Otherwise it can all
too easily lead to the questionable practice
of stereotyping.

A Rose by any other name?

"Cradled by the earth's warm body
Nourished on the richness of its soil
Surviving the summer storms
The biting wind, winter's harsh breath

Its petals succulent, soft, crimson in colour
Hiding an unknown magic
Innocence contained
The line, smooth and delicate

Coming to full bloom
With the sun's gentle touch
The slender beauty of a bud no longer
A rose grown to its height, formed by nature
to beautify

How often, but temporarily?

How often is this child of nature's
torn from its mother's limbs?
No longer to share her children
And bask in the glory of the sun.

Lifted out of their midst
Into the darkness of artificial light
To briefly bring warmth,
Colour and life into a man made home

Destiny, a web cruelly woven
A pattern ending on a waste heap
In some deserted garden spot
Nature's torment not yet ended

Where once if temporarily
Shone the beauty of a rose
Stands a plastic replacement
Perfectly crafted, yet hiding a promise
it never can keep!"
(Written in 1989).
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 13 July 2010 11:26:53 AM
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I am one of those who have lost confidence with the members of the political parties who have got into power since 1970, I have found that they have no knowledge, intelligence, loyalty or decency when looking at the morass they have driven the economy into for our workers and small business - as well as others. The big demand that we keep exporting more and more of our non-renewable and non-value-added resources, is only the demand of idiots or total traitors. Apart for the fact that coal sold by BHP for $US98/tonne, and resold to Pohang from Sth. Korea, for an estimated $US308.70 / tonne, the payment to the mining companies and the Government, for these exports, is made by the prices we pay for the imports from those countries whether it is China, Japan, USA, UK, Germany or whoever. I don't deny that those people who are employed by the mining companies and those maintaining the equipment need consideration, however it would be much better if they were justly employed in Australian manufacturing for providing a good economy and environment for our descendants and for their future; the export mining won't provide for that. I suspect that the wind farms and solar power is sufficient for domestic and small business, but would be inadequate for heavy industrial machinery, but would a big help. Our main problem comes mainly from the intelligence – or lack of , by the people “chosen by the political parties to be our representatives” in parliament. There is no way can those people chosen, properly represent a true section of the Australian community, there are too many lawyers for one thing, and as for them being the major part of our present PM and treasurer and previously ones as well, particularly since the 1970's, when the economy, intelligence, decency and really - all things relative to a successful progressive country, have been put into the old dunny can and thrown into the river.
Posted by merv09, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 8:22:13 PM
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Foxy,I like your poem.

The most important key to this whole deception is WTC 7.It was the third building on 911 that came down in a controlled demolition style which no plane impacted.It took 6 yrs for NIST to release a sham report which even it admits it is flawed and cannot explain the collapse.

From 911 came the invasion of Afghanistan,Iraq, Pakistan and now are looking for excuses to invade oil rich Iran.

Don't forget Prof Neils Harritt will be at Sydney 17/7/10 this weekend; 280 Pitt St Sydney,to present his proof of explosives used in the World Trade Centre. See http://www.911oz.com

Dr Bob Bowman also lists this in his article as a major issue.He says we need a new independant investigation.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 10:21:21 PM
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Foxy says:

Then during World War II,
thousands of patriotic Japanese-Americans
were placed in detention camps because of
unreasonable fears that they might be loyal
to Japan than to the US.

Interesting conundrum.... often wonder how I'd act if PM during a similar time.

But perhaps such actions result from other 'actions' which in turn stem from the racial and religious background of certain segments of the community.

The middle east is a classic.

Australia is basically pro Israel.....

there are seditious segments which are 'pro Palestinian' and they make their voices and wishes heard.. seeking to overturn government policy.

If it came to serious war where Australia was an Ally with Israel in a conflict with some Arab Country....on which side would they be ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO2dX91xwe0&feature=related

Imagine if some elements of British society poured onto the streets and yelled "FREE FREE SUDETENLAND"......just prior to that political zealot Adolph taking the initiative and 'liberating' it from 'oppression' in the name of 'freedom for German people'
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Thursday, 15 July 2010 8:22:20 AM
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Dear Arjay,

I value your opinion.
You've given me much to think about.

Dear AGIR,

Your comprehension and rationalization of the
Japanese internment camps of American citizens
in the US - is truly quite beyond belief. I imagine
you could find a way to explain to Holocaust
survivors that the current government at that
time in Germany had good reasons for doing
what it did. Or that the Soviet Union had
every right to do what it did in its Gulags.
After all both governments were only "protecting their
interests," according to your given arguments.
I wonder though what the victims of these actions
would have to say to you?
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 15 July 2010 10:59:38 AM
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