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The 'sustainable' East Timor solution

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Ludwig,
I do not think that anything needs to be done even though they are technically breaking our law. As I said they cost us nothing and in fact add to the economy.

To do anything substancial about it we would need to become a 'police state' with nightly checks for overstayers at hotels and other accomodation. I cannot imagine our citizens standing for that.

An alternastive would be for hefty fines put on at departure points which again would not go down well, especially with the tourist industry.

So does it really matter if, after seeing the Barrier Reef, some tourists decide to stay a little longer and visit Ayers Rock, or Barrosa Valley. We do after all know who they are and where they are from. If they violate the visa terms our first option is to kick them out, as it is.

Sorry if you are aware of the overstayers spin, it seemed to me that you thought it was a major problem and was urgently in need of attention.

The long term overstayers are a bit more of a worry as they are vulnerable to unscrupulous landlords and employers and need to obtain false cards and tax file numbers to blend in. That certainly makes that group criminals. Only extra resourses could counteract that.
Posted by Banjo, Thursday, 8 July 2010 1:23:05 PM
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Ludwig;
Visa overstayers should be detectable by the taxation dept if
they could enforce more and better auditing of employer payrolls.
Any overstayer has to either be involved in crime or work for an
employer who pays under the lap.
Tying bank accounts to tax file numbers must have made life difficult
for the overstayers as it means they cannot bank their money.
Even sending it out of the country is difficult.
The Islamic funds transmission system should be banned although might
be difficult to enforce.

I would think that the taxation dept would be the best detector that
the immigration dept could have.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 8 July 2010 1:28:13 PM
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"Well well, we now have our first 'sustainable' boat-people policy, off to East Timor."

Then again, maybe it is not so much "sustainable", more a "non-starter"...

Alternatively, we could let all the boat people in and give them jobs, installing roofing insulation for Peter Garrett.....

that should solve a few problems.....

More stuff-ups from "Bungle Central"
Posted by Stern, Friday, 9 July 2010 9:29:24 AM
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The Australia Institutes paper on dogwhistling, as practised by John Howard and Julia Gillard, to name but a few of our politicians today:
https://www.tai.org.au/index.php?q=node/19&pubid=427&act=display
Posted by The Blue Cross, Friday, 9 July 2010 5:01:17 PM
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Assylum seekers.. immigration by stealth (through 'education') has but one goal

Dilute and destroy any sense of homogenous Aussie Identity.

Labor openly admitted this in the UK

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

The Latino driven SEIU in the states is openly barracking for it (services union)....

This is the most blatant and clear declaration of political WAR against Americans you could ever get.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK7K0itgQt0&feature=related

This man wants to make illegals legal for the primary purpose of expanding the 'progressive' agenda, which translated into open borders, income redistrubution, and marxist economics.

That 'foreigners' are political capital for a particular side of politics is not something that can even be argued.. it is a given.

The only question remaining is.. IF they ever did become the deciding voice for the American State... what would the do with that power ?
I suspect one item high on the agenda would be to change the language from English to Spanish.
Posted by ALGOREisRICH, Saturday, 10 July 2010 9:53:28 PM
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It does not matter where the 'illegals' are processed, either to them or to us. Be it Timor, Nauru, Baxter or anywhere else, the boats will still keep coming unless we stop giving them what they want.

Permanent residency in Aus is what they seek so if we remove the permanent resident visa and all that goes with it, the boats will stop coming. The TPVs that the previous government had was the key. Give only TPVs and the smugglers will go out of business.

But then, after encouraging the 'illegals' to come, why would they believe what this government says. This government has created the current problem.
Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 11 July 2010 12:11:14 AM
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