Ludwig, and Foxy, do please indulge me with a check list of 'difference'.

TBC.. you wonder about Julia's posturing ? :)

You note there is 'no agreement yet' ?

Have you watched Yes Minister so long and yet you do not know Political spin when you see it ? John 14:9 "Political" Bible.

Ludwig.. same goes 4 u u ragamuffin :)

Brilliance is not always in the 'actual'..but the postured.

Unforutnately it presupposes a dumb gullible electorate.

Foxy..

ur toooo easy :) "This should unite us"....cough splutter choke..hemorrhage..coronary- err you actually believe this political stuff ?

Your pupils are not a bit dilated right now are they ?

Advantages for E Timor seem to me that it would bring quite a lot of intellectual and technical expertise to the country.

Blue Cross, this is my checklist of differences between the Rudd and Gillard governments.

1. Restored harmony between the government and the people who really run the country: the big miners, with a bit of an increase in wealth distribution from our primary resources to the ordinary people, but with the obscene profits for a few people and companies still well and truly intact.

2. Much tighter border protection.

That’s it, so far!

Even with these two policy shifts, the Gillard government is arguably more different to the Rudd government than Liberal or Labor governments have been to each other for many years, except of course the failed Rudd government which stood out like a sore thumb as being quite different to previous Lib or Lab govts.

<< Advantages for E Timor seem to me that it would bring quite a lot of intellectual and technical expertise to the country. >>

RichbuggerALGORE, I agree. Asylum seeker processing in Timor Leste certainly does present that struggling country with a significant potential economic/intellectual/technical windfall. And it would help cement a tight relationship between them and Oz... without offending Indonesia.

It sounds like a nice little win win situation.

Does the government really think the East Timorese will welcome
significant numbers of moslems in their country ?

Have you all forgotten the slaughter that took place there not so
long ago ?

Ludwig, thanks for your sterling efforts there.

Hardly anything to boast about is it?

Your first point shows there is no difference between the ALP and Coalition. The bulk of Australians will not benefit much from the 'new tax', and as you said, the miners have got off pretty well Scot free.

As for 'tightening border security'... hardly, some dogwhistling on boats, and not a peek on the fly-ins and overstayers at all.

The differences I see are, sad to say, not much more than the end of Rudd (welcomed) and a female PM (and? The actual benefit beyond the emotional is lost to me at this point).

Oh yes, and the inclusion of an undefined phrase that means nothing into the title of a mass-populater supporter as now being a 'sustainable' mass populater.

I wonder what Foxy sees is 'so' different?